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[204.195.120.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bg18-20020a056a02011200b00434feb1841dsm3861687pgb.66.2022.09.22.08.30.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:30:29 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Vladimir Oltean Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , David Ahern , Andrew Lunn , Vivien Didelot , Florian Fainelli Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 iproute2-next] ip link: add sub-command to view and change DSA master Message-ID: <20220922083029.52524b21@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20220922144123.5z3wib5apai462q7@skbuf> References: <20220921165105.1737200-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> <20220921113637.73a2f383@hermes.local> <20220921183827.gkmzula73qr4afwg@skbuf> <20220921153349.0519c35d@hermes.local> <20220922144123.5z3wib5apai462q7@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:41:24 +0000 Vladimir Oltean wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 03:33:49PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > There is no reason that words with long emotional history need to be used > > in network command. > > > > https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/ > > > > https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/ > > > > I understand that you and others that live in different geographies may > > have different feelings about this. But the goal as a community to > > not use names and terms that may hinder new diverse people from > > being involved. > > The Linux kernel community is centered around a technical goal rather > than political or emotional ones, and for this reason I don't think it's > appropriate to go here in many more details than this. > > All I will say is that I have more things to do than time to do them, > and I'm not willing to voluntarily go even one step back about this and > change the UAPI names while the in-kernel data structures and the > documentation remain with the old names, because it's not going to stop > there, and I will never have time for this. > > So until this becomes mandatory in some sort of official way, I'd like > to make use of the exception paragraph, which in my reading applies > perfectly to this situation, thank you. Because it is in the Coding Style it has been approved by the Linux Kernel Technical Advisor Board.