From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6811EC54EE9 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229606AbiIVU2W (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54098 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229512AbiIVU2V (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 16:28:21 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-x630.google.com (mail-pl1-x630.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::630]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DDB510FE01 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x630.google.com with SMTP id t3so9895452ply.2 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=G8vWMNKl/tOJSQ6M0zXFOTKwOLhvJw/y+mqTFh6znV4=; b=oRDbnaKns9k1KMISsKzq9cJmS0ifqDbhOlYFyzmUeoGAc59XCen77eJauyo50l++Jz /l2VH8ln5YUbdwdox0h5RnLpGrg17OJaHKU8CfYBskgEiA8DDCbsm14q2wHG+azbHL0u K9JlajsChYbWsxgd4zWITszcOXvepqou+3/gLt4EH6s3TyCcwhJIiD4AGfO/qjKYdlNf s0ap+wOkzWz2uvf0bzEKaD+A8CKvhBuMD1kM6pykegZCM1e8TuO2ujuxbJW8H0XA1Imw 2wfRT3Kf1WQHO1IcuqMjhhd1m4usX0zeyKsWJlKlxKUZAsom5P9AFXQx31UGv6XbJ1cO yzaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date; bh=G8vWMNKl/tOJSQ6M0zXFOTKwOLhvJw/y+mqTFh6znV4=; b=4wgbfKkG8VD7/TmQVMl0DpmUma+OeJARTV9yuUUfsl7TMGaeLhA0+ceHBiEEjrO224 gtYZh/bqXSK42Kc70e4qaOzqmvuFCD9ULnlQOSEeR/LnnL+QaimFkH9t3zs2C1iugW1y Zo7zKXpon2UVSPMEcfOOeRkVug9ACb3yC8DvDTUkr29AzG3eYeJTatR9I9JXQa/RFJf1 TJzGS538EwqLM2DA3gtsmdkxdu7rmRWNbnfPZUhHxdfMs/ZXvbQaNd41n32SB+wSiSRS GhOn5eE8THl6wTF7TmWXS8++lKgVSEBGWQWVlWulNnpLkcPPi3EDaI/Gt2Q0XsLUArTs r7gg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2uhvDFrk3E1Ue/dzRnTn686m8qFVRkpk+9vG38SaBZc4r2QvaK 8tgQlqsEzU6245LAG6yHNh2qM3a/akrOYg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4DfM834Wjkqe69cV0QoDjzYLu7pFkdWBoXO5KCN65N/HeyEC4OLO4bwh7shKGTRREM2BM8zQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c402:b0:178:2bd6:c415 with SMTP id k2-20020a170902c40200b001782bd6c415mr4843897plk.48.1663878498963; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-120-218.wavecable.com. [204.195.120.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p12-20020a170902e74c00b00176e2fa216csm4596890plf.52.2022.09.22.13.28.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:28:16 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Vladimir Oltean Cc: Jakub Kicinski , Andrew Lunn , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , David Ahern , Vivien Didelot , Florian Fainelli Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 iproute2-next] ip link: add sub-command to view and change DSA master Message-ID: <20220922132816.64e057e7@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20220922201319.5b6clcxthiqqnt7j@skbuf> References: <20220921165105.1737200-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> <20220921113637.73a2f383@hermes.local> <20220921183827.gkmzula73qr4afwg@skbuf> <20220921154107.61399763@hermes.local> <20220922062405.15837cfe@kernel.org> <20220922180051.qo6swrvz2gqwgtlp@skbuf> <20220922123027.74abaaa9@kernel.org> <20220922201319.5b6clcxthiqqnt7j@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:13:21 +0000 Vladimir Oltean wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 12:30:27PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:00:52 +0000 Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > > As for via, I didn't even know that this had a serious use in English as > > > a noun, other than the very specific term for PCB design. I find it > > > pretty hard to use in speech: "the via interface does this or that". > > > > Maybe it's a stretch but I meant it as a parallel to next-hops > > in routing. > > > > ip route add 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1 > > ^^^ > > Ignoring the fact that a preposition can't be a synonim for a noun > (and therefore, if I use 'via' I can't use the alternate name 'master'), > I thought a bit more about this and I dislike it less than conduit. > > I can avoid referring to the DSA master as such in the command, but the > man page will still have to describe it for what it is. > > I think I'm going to give this a go. Not sure where choice of "via" came from. Other network os's use "next-hop" or just skip having a keyword.