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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 01/12] net/sched: taprio: allow user input of per-tc max SDU
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 14:32:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220927143225.546ba2b8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220927212319.pc75hlhsw7s6es6p@skbuf>

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 21:23:19 +0000 Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:27:10AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > I know, that's what I expected you'd say :(
> > You'd need a reverse parser which is a PITA to do unless you have
> > clearly specified bindings.  
> 
> I think you're underestimating the problem, it's worse than PITA. My A
> still hurts and yet I couldn't find any way in which reverse parsing the
> bad netlink attribute is in any way practical in iproute2, other than
> doing it to prove a point that it's possible.

Yup, iproute2 does not have policy tables, so it's hard.

Once you have tables like this:

https://github.com/kuba-moo/ynl/blob/main/tools/net/ynl/generated/ethtool-user.c#L22

all linking up the types, it's fairly easy to reverse parse:

https://github.com/kuba-moo/ynl/blob/main/tools/net/ynl/lib/ynl.c#L75

Admittedly I haven't added parsing of the bounds yet so it'd just say
"invalid argument .bla.something" not "argument out of range
.bla.something (is: X, range N-M)" but that's just typing.

> > I'd rather you kept the code as is than make precedent for adding both
> > string and machine readable. If we do that people will try to stay on
> > the safe side and always add both.
> >
> > The machine readable format is carries all the information you need.  
> 
> Nope, the question "What range?" still isn't answered via the machine
> readable format. Just "What integer?".

Hm, doesn't NLMSGERR_ATTR_POLICY contain the bounds?

> > It's just the user space is not clever enough to read it which is,
> > well, solvable.  
> 
> You should come work at NXP, we love people who keep a healthy dose of
> unnecessary complexity in things :)

Ha! :D

> Sometimes, "not clever enough" is just fine.

Yup, go ahead with just the strings. "We'll get there" for the machine
readable parsing, hopefully, once my YAML descriptions come...

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-27 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-23 16:32 [PATCH v2 net-next 00/12] Add tc-taprio support for queueMaxSDU Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 01/12] net/sched: taprio: allow user input of per-tc max SDU Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-26 20:38   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-27 15:09     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27 18:27       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-27 21:23         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27 21:32           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 02/12] tsnep: deny tc-taprio changes to " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-26 20:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-26 21:50     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-26 23:29       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-27  0:22         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27  0:43           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 03/12] igc: " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 04/12] net: stmmac: " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 05/12] net: am65-cpsw: " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 06/12] net: lan966x: " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 07/12] net: dsa: sja1105: " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 08/12] net: dsa: felix: offload per-tc max SDU from tc-taprio Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 09/12] net: dsa: hellcreek: Offload " Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 10/12] net: enetc: cache accesses to &priv->si->hw Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 11/12] net: enetc: use common naming scheme for PTGCR and PTGCAPR registers Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-23 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 12/12] net: enetc: offload per-tc max SDU from tc-taprio Vladimir Oltean

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