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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: netdev@kapio-technology.com
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Oleksandr Mazur <oleksandr.mazur@plvision.eu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 net-next 10/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:14:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221021181411.sv52q4yxr5r7urab@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b88e331e016ad3801f1bf1a0dec507f3@kapio-technology.com>

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 07:39:34PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com wrote:
> Well, with this change, to have MAB working, the bridge would need learning on
> of course, but how things work with the bridge according to the flags, they
> should also work in the offloaded case if you ask me. There should be no
> difference between the two, thus MAB in drivers would have to be with
> learning on.

Am I proposing for things to work differently in the offload and
software case, and not realizing it? :-/

The essence of my proposal was to send a bug fix now which denies
BR_LEARNING to be set together with BR_PORT_LOCKED. The fact that
link-local traffic is learned by the software bridge is something
unintended as far as I understand.

You tried to fix it here, and as far as I could search in my inbox, that
didn't go anywhere:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/47d8d747-54ef-df52-3b9c-acb9a77fa14a@blackwall.org/T/#u

I thought only mv88e6xxx offloads BR_PORT_LOCKED, but now, after
searching, I also see prestera has support for it, so let me add
Oleksandr Mazur to the discussion as well. I wonder how they deal with
this? Has somebody come to rely on learning being enabled on a locked
port?


MAB in offloading drivers will have to be with learning on (same as in
software). When BR_PORT_LOCKED | BR_LEARNING will be allowed together
back in net-next (to denote the MAB configuration), offloading drivers
(mv88e6xxx and prestera) will be patched to reject them. They will only
accept the two together when they implement MAB support.

Future drivers after this mess has been cleaned up will have to look at
the BR_PORT_LOCKED and BR_LEARNING flag in combination, to see which
kind of learning is desired on a port (secure, CPU based learning or
autonomous learning).

Am I not making sense?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-21 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-18 16:56 [PATCH v8 net-next 00/12] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 01/12] net: bridge: add locked entry fdb flag to extend locked port feature Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 12:54   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 19:37     ` netdev
2022-10-21  0:11       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 02/12] net: bridge: add blackhole fdb entry flag Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 13:06   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 19:34     ` netdev
2022-10-23  5:32     ` netdev
2022-10-24 17:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 03/12] net: bridge: enable bridge to install locked fdb entries from drivers Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 12:55   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 19:29     ` netdev
2022-10-20 22:43       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 04/12] net: bridge: add MAB flag to hardware offloadable flags Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 05/12] net: dsa: propagate the locked flag down through the DSA layer Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 13:02   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 13:24     ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 13:35       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 13:57         ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 14:04           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 14:58             ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 15:25               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 14:11           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 15:23             ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 15:36               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 18:47         ` netdev
2022-10-20 23:57           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 19:43     ` netdev
2022-10-20 22:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 06/12] net: bridge: enable bridge to send and receive blackhole FDB entries Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 07/12] net: dsa: send the blackhole flag down through the DSA layer Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 08/12] drivers: net: dsa: add fdb entry flags incoming to switchcore drivers Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 13:12   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 09/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: allow reading FID when handling ATU violations Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 10/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 13:25   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-20 19:59     ` netdev
2022-10-20 20:20     ` netdev
2022-10-20 22:57       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-21  6:47         ` netdev
2022-10-21 11:22           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-21 13:16             ` netdev
2022-10-21 16:30               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-21 17:18                 ` netdev
2022-10-21 17:30                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-21 17:39                     ` netdev
2022-10-21 18:14                       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-10-22  7:24                         ` netdev
2022-10-22 12:02                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-22 13:15                             ` netdev
2022-10-22  8:50                         ` Oleksandr Mazur
2022-10-22 11:32                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-22 12:55                             ` Oleksandr Mazur
2022-10-22 13:39                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-22 13:49                         ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-22 14:11                           ` netdev
2022-10-22 14:49                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-23  6:53                             ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-20 21:09     ` netdev
2022-10-20 23:00       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-22  7:31     ` netdev
2022-10-22 11:55       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 11/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: add blackhole ATU entries Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 13:11   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-18 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 12/12] selftests: forwarding: add MAB tests to locked port tests Hans J. Schultz
2022-10-20 12:35   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-10-19 18:58 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 00/12] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-20  9:55   ` Ido Schimmel

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