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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" <UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>,
	Colin Foster <colin.foster@in-advantage.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 4/4] net: dsa: remove phylink_validate() method
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 12:40:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221101124035.tqlmxvyrqpaqn63h@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2EKnLt2SyhjvcNI@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:01:32PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 01:48:06PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > Not all DSA drivers provide config->mac_capabilities, for example
> > mv88e6060, lan9303 and vsc73xx don't. However, there have been users of
> > those drivers on recent kernels and no one reported that they fail to
> > establish a link, so I'm guessing that they work (somehow). But I must
> > admit I don't understand why phylink_generic_validate() works when
> > mac_capabilities=0. Anyway, these drivers did not provide a
> > phylink_validate() method before and do not provide one now, so nothing
> > changes for them.
> 
> There is a specific exception:
> 
> When config->mac_capabilities is zero, and there is no phylink_validate()
> function, dsa_port_phylink_validate() becomes a no-op, and the no-op
> case basically means "everything is allowed", which is how things worked
> before the generic validation was added, as you will see from commit
> 5938bce4b6e2 ("net: dsa: support use of phylink_generic_validate()").
> 
> Changing this as you propose below will likely break these drivers.
> 
> A safer change would be to elimate ds->ops->phylink_validate, leaving
> the call to phylink_generic_validate() conditional on mac_capabilities
> having been filled in - which will save breaking these older drivers.

Yes, this is correct, thanks; our emails crossed.

Between keeping a no-op phylink_validate() for these drivers and filling
in mac_capabilities for them, to remove this extra code path in DSA,
what would be preferred?

The 3 drivers I mentioned could all get a blanket MAC_10 | MAC_100 |
MAC1000FD | MAC_ASYM_PAUSE | MAC_SYM_PAUSE to keep advertising what they
did, even if this may or may not be 100% correct (lan9303 and mv88e6060
are not gigabit, and I don't know if they do flow control properly), but
these issues are not new.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-01 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-01 11:48 [PATCH net-next 0/4] Remove phylink_validate() from Felix DSA driver Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 11:48 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] net: phy: aquantia: add AQR112 and AQR412 PHY IDs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 15:36   ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-03 11:39     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 11:48 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] net: dsa: felix: use phylink_generic_validate() Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 11:48 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: mscc: ocelot: drop workaround for forcing RX flow control Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 11:48 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] net: dsa: remove phylink_validate() method Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 11:59   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-01 12:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-01 12:40     ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-11-01 15:42       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-04 11:24   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-04 11:35     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-04 13:32       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-04 14:01         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-04 14:25           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-04 14:48             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-04 15:33               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-04 15:40       ` Florian Fainelli
2022-11-04 16:35         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-06  1:04           ` Florian Fainelli

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