From: 'Horatiu Vultur' <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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"UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" <UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 0/3] net: lan966x: Fixes for when MTU is changed
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 17:04:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221101160452.mhk6ze7hzjaz4hzo@soft-dev3-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de73370512334c76b1500e12cfd33005@AcuMS.aculab.com>
The 11/01/2022 09:03, David Laight wrote:
> > HW requires to have the start of frame alligned to 128 bytes.
>
> Not a real problem.
> Even dma_alloc_coherent() guarantees alignment.
>
> I'm not 100% sure of all the options of the Linux stack.
> But for ~1500 byte mtu I'd have thought that receiving
> directly into an skb would be best (1 page allocated for an skb).
> For large mtu (and hardware receive coalescing) receiving
> into pages is probably better - but not high order allocations.
But am I not doing this already? I allocate the page here [1] and then create
the skb here[2].
>
> ...
> > > If the buffer is embedded in an skb you really want the skb
> > > to be under 4k (I don't think a 1500 byte mtu can fit in 2k).
> > >
> > > But you might as well tell the hardware the actual buffer length
> > > (remember to allow for the crc and any alignment header).
> >
> > I am already doing that here [2]
> > And I need to do it for each frame it can received.
>
> That is the length of the buffer.
> Not the maximum frame length - which seems to be elsewhere.
> I suspect that having the maximum frame length less than the
> buffer size stops the driver having to handle long frames
> that span multiple buffers.
> (and very long frames that are longer than all the buffers!)
>
> ...
> > > I'd set the buffer large enough for the mtu but let the hardware fill
> > > the entire buffer.
> >
> > I am not 100% sure I follow it. Can you expend on this a little bit?
>
> At the moment I think the receive buffer descriptors have a length
> of 4k. But you are setting another 'maximum frame length' register
> to (eg) 1518 so that the hardware rejects long frames.
That is correct.
> But you can set the 'maximum frame length' register to (just under)
> 4k so that longer frames are received ok but without the driver
> having to worry about frames spanning multiple buffer fragments.
But this will not just put more load on CPU? In the way that I accept
long frames but then they will be discard by the CPU.
And I can do this in HW, because I know what is the maximum frame length
accepted on that interface.
>
> The network stack might choose to discard frames with an overlong mtu.
> But that can be done after all the headers have been removed.
>
> ...
> > But all these possible changes will need to go through net-next.
>
> Indeed.
>
> David
[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1-rc3/source/drivers/net/ethernet/microchip/lan966x/lan966x_fdma.c#L17
[2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.1-rc3/source/drivers/net/ethernet/microchip/lan966x/lan966x_fdma.c#L417
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-01 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-30 21:36 [PATCH net v2 0/3] net: lan966x: Fixes for when MTU is changed Horatiu Vultur
2022-10-30 21:36 ` [PATCH net v2 1/3] net: lan966x: Fix the MTU calculation Horatiu Vultur
2022-10-30 21:36 ` [PATCH net v2 2/3] net: lan966x: Adjust maximum frame size when vlan is enabled/disabled Horatiu Vultur
2022-10-30 21:36 ` [PATCH net v2 3/3] net: lan966x: Fix FDMA when MTU is changed Horatiu Vultur
2022-10-31 10:43 ` [PATCH net v2 0/3] net: lan966x: Fixes for " David Laight
2022-10-31 15:01 ` 'Horatiu Vultur'
2022-10-31 15:27 ` David Laight
2022-11-01 7:59 ` 'Horatiu Vultur'
2022-11-01 9:03 ` David Laight
2022-11-01 16:04 ` 'Horatiu Vultur' [this message]
2022-11-02 4:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
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