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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>, Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH (repost) net-next] sched: add extack for tfilter_notify
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 16:36:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221102163646.131a3910@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMmFCoP=PF8cm_-ufcMP9NktRnpQ+mHmoz2VNN8i2koHbw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 11:33:18 -0400 Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> > Sorry for the late response. I just came back form vacation. For this issue,
> > I saw netlink_dump_done() also put NLMSGERR_ATTR_MSG in NLMSG_DONE.
> > So why can't we do the same here?
> >
> > In https://www.kernel.org/doc/html//next/userspace-api/netlink/intro.html,
> > The "optionally extended ACK" in NLMSG_DONE is OK.
> 
> Ok.
> [That seemd to  be a nice doc - need to find time to look at it]

Thanks.

> > > Also - i guess it will depend on the underlying driver?
> > > This seems very related to a specific driver:
> > > "Warning: mlx5_core: matching on ct_state +new isn't supported."
> > > Debuggability is always great but so is backwards compat.
> > > What happens when you run old userspace tc? There are tons
> > > of punting systems that process these events out there and
> > > depend on the current event messages as is.  
> >
> > I think old tc should just ignore this NLMSGERR_ATTR_MSG?  
> 
> Yes.
> So looks good to me then.
> 
> Acked-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>

Eish.

Hangbin, I'm still against this. Please go back to my suggestions /
questions. A tracepoint or an attribute should do. Multi-part messages
are very hard to map to normal programming constructs, and I don't
think there is any precedent for mutli-part notifications.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29  3:35 [PATCH (repost) net-next] sched: add extack for tfilter_notify Hangbin Liu
2022-10-01  2:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-01 18:39 ` Cong Wang
2022-10-01 20:39   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2022-10-02 15:27     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-10-26  9:58       ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-02  1:26         ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-02 15:33         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-02 23:36           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-11-04  2:39             ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-08  9:11             ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-08 18:55               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-09 11:53                 ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-10  1:52                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-10  2:20                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-10  6:29                       ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-10 17:12                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-10 14:27                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-10 17:27                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  3:07                           ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-15  4:51                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15 12:42                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-15 12:44                               ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-15 13:13                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-15 13:57                                   ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-15 16:26                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2022-11-17  8:42                                       ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-29  8:07                                       ` Hangbin Liu
2022-11-29 15:43                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-30  8:44                                           ` Hangbin Liu

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