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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	David Thompson <davthompson@nvidia.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, cai.huoqing@linux.dev, brgl@bgdev.pl,
	limings@nvidia.com, chenhao288@hisilicon.com,
	huangguangbin2@huawei.com, Asmaa Mnebhi <asmaa@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] mlxbf_gige: add BlueField-3 Serdes configuration
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 16:50:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221114165046.43d4afbf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y29s74Qt6z56lcLB@x130.lan>

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 01:52:47 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> >Well, the patch was marked as Changes Requested so it seems that DaveM
> >concurs :) (I'm slightly desensitized to those tables because they
> >happen in WiFi relatively often.)
> >
> >The recommendation is to come up with a format for a binary file, load
> >it via FW loader and then parse in the kernel?  
> 
> By FW loader you mean request_firmware() functionality ?

Yes, that's what I meant.

> I am not advocating for black magic tables of course :), but how do we
> avoid them if request_firmware() will be an overkill to configure such a
> simple device? Express such data in a developer friendly c structures
> with somewhat sensible field names?

I don't feel particularly strongly but seems like something worth
exploring. A minor advantage is that once the init is done the tables
can be discarded from memory.

> >We did have a recommendation against parsing FW files in the kernel at
> >some point, too, but perhaps this is simple enough to pass.
> >
> >Should this be shared infra? The problem is fairly common.  
> 
> Infrastructure to parse vendor Firmware ? we can't get vendors to agree on
> ethtool interface, you want them to agree on one firmware format :)?

We can keep the table format pretty much as is. What I had in mind was
basically creating a binary file format with u64 address, and u64 data.
Plus file sections to pack multiple tables into one file.
Pretty pleasant coding exercise if you ask me :)

> BTW i don't think the issue here is firmware at all, this is device
> specific config space.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-09 22:47 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] mlxbf_gige: add BlueField-3 support David Thompson
2022-11-09 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] mlxbf_gige: add MDIO support for BlueField-3 David Thompson
2022-11-10 13:24   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-09 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] mlxbf_gige: support 10M/100M/1G speeds on BlueField-3 David Thompson
2022-11-10 13:23   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-09 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] mlxbf_gige: add BlueField-3 Serdes configuration David Thompson
2022-11-10 13:33   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-12  5:34     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-12  9:52       ` Saeed Mahameed
2022-11-12 15:53         ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-15  0:56           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  0:50         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-11-15  1:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-15  1:13             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-16 16:30               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-17  2:01                 ` Saeed Mahameed
2022-11-17  6:23                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-09 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] mlxbf_gige: add "set_link_ksettings" ethtool callback David Thompson
2022-11-10 13:26   ` Andrew Lunn

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