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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
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	Madalin Bucur <madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com>,
	Camelia Groza <camelia.groza@nxp.com>,
	Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
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	Raag Jadav <raagjadav@gmail.com>,
	Siddharth Vadapalli <s-vadapalli@ti.com>,
	Ong Boon Leong <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
	Colin Foster <colin.foster@in-advantage.com>,
	Marek Behun <marek.behun@nic.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:01:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221122100106.likrl6rg3crydrh3@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3yYo63kj+ACdkW1@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 09:38:43AM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> Also, if we get the Marvell driver implementing validate_an_inband()
> then I believe we can get rid of other parts of this patch - 88E1111 is
> the commonly used accessible PHY on gigabit SFPs, as this PHY implements
> I2C access natively. As I mentioned, Marvell PHYs can be set to no
> inband, requiring inband, or inband with bypass mode enabled. So we
> need to decide how we deal with that - especially if we're going to be
> changing the mode from 1000base-X to SGMII (which we do on some SFP
> modules so they work at 10/100/1000.)

Not clear which parts of this patch we could ged rid of, if we
implemented in-band AN reporting/configuration for the 88E1111.
Based on your previous description, it sounds like it would be just more
functionality for software rather than less.

> In that regard, I'm not entirely convinced that validate_an_inband()
> covers the functionality we need - as reading the config register on
> Marvell hardware doesn't guarantee that we're reading the right mode -
> the PHY may be in 1000base-X, and we might change it to
> SGMII-with-bypass - I'd need to go through the PHY datasheets to check
> what we actually do.
> 
> Changing what the PHY driver does would be a recipe for regressions,
> especially for drivers that do not use phylink.

I believe that currently, the "interface" passed to phy_validate_an_inband()
and phy_config_an_inband() is always also the phydev->interface.
We could strive to keep that being the case, and put a phydev_warn() in
the Marvell PHY driver if we get a query for interface != phydev->interface,
and report PHY_AN_INBAND_UNKNOWN.

It's also one of the reasons why I didn't yet want to jump right into
figuring out what should be done with PHYs that change SERDES protocols,
and when exactly we query the in-band capability for the new one. Right
now, phylink will assume that the in-band capability reported for the
first SERDES protocol will continue to be the same for all subsequent
protocols. Obviously this might not be the case.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-18  0:01 [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/8] net: phylink: let phylink_sfp_config_phy() determine the MLO_AN_* mode to use Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/8] net: phylink: introduce generic method to query PHY in-band autoneg capability Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:11   ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:42     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:49       ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:56         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:57           ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 16:00             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:21   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22  9:41     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22  9:38   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 10:01     ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-11-22 11:16     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:11       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:58         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 17:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:14             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:28             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 19:36               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-23 12:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-23 13:11                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 12:30                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-25 13:43                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 15:35                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-27 22:14                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:40                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:43                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 14:07                               ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-22 12:24     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 17:51       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 4/8] net: phylink: add option to sync in-band autoneg setting between PCS and PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 5/8] net: phylink: explicitly configure in-band autoneg for on-board PHYs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 10:09   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18 11:25     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 14:37       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 6/8] net: phy: mscc: configure in-band auto-negotiation for VSC8514 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 7/8] net: phy: at803x: validate in-band autoneg for AT8031/AT8033 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18  0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 8/8] net: opt MAC drivers which use Lynx PCS into phylink sync_an_inband Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 18:38 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Sean Anderson
2022-11-21 19:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 22:42     ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22  0:17       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:10         ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 16:30           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:45             ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 17:59           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 18:09             ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22  9:16   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-02 12:16 ` Maxim Kochetkov
2022-12-05 17:19   ` Vladimir Oltean

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