From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:01:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221122100106.likrl6rg3crydrh3@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3yYo63kj+ACdkW1@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 09:38:43AM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> Also, if we get the Marvell driver implementing validate_an_inband()
> then I believe we can get rid of other parts of this patch - 88E1111 is
> the commonly used accessible PHY on gigabit SFPs, as this PHY implements
> I2C access natively. As I mentioned, Marvell PHYs can be set to no
> inband, requiring inband, or inband with bypass mode enabled. So we
> need to decide how we deal with that - especially if we're going to be
> changing the mode from 1000base-X to SGMII (which we do on some SFP
> modules so they work at 10/100/1000.)
Not clear which parts of this patch we could ged rid of, if we
implemented in-band AN reporting/configuration for the 88E1111.
Based on your previous description, it sounds like it would be just more
functionality for software rather than less.
> In that regard, I'm not entirely convinced that validate_an_inband()
> covers the functionality we need - as reading the config register on
> Marvell hardware doesn't guarantee that we're reading the right mode -
> the PHY may be in 1000base-X, and we might change it to
> SGMII-with-bypass - I'd need to go through the PHY datasheets to check
> what we actually do.
>
> Changing what the PHY driver does would be a recipe for regressions,
> especially for drivers that do not use phylink.
I believe that currently, the "interface" passed to phy_validate_an_inband()
and phy_config_an_inband() is always also the phydev->interface.
We could strive to keep that being the case, and put a phydev_warn() in
the Marvell PHY driver if we get a query for interface != phydev->interface,
and report PHY_AN_INBAND_UNKNOWN.
It's also one of the reasons why I didn't yet want to jump right into
figuring out what should be done with PHYs that change SERDES protocols,
and when exactly we query the in-band capability for the new one. Right
now, phylink will assume that the in-band capability reported for the
first SERDES protocol will continue to be the same for all subsequent
protocols. Obviously this might not be the case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-22 10:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-18 0:01 [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/8] net: phylink: let phylink_sfp_config_phy() determine the MLO_AN_* mode to use Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/8] net: phylink: introduce generic method to query PHY in-band autoneg capability Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:11 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:42 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:49 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 15:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 15:57 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-18 16:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 9:21 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 9:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 9:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 3/8] net: phy: bcm84881: move the in-band capability check where it belongs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 9:38 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 10:01 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-11-22 11:16 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 12:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:58 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 17:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:14 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 18:28 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 19:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-23 12:08 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-23 13:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 12:30 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-25 13:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-25 15:35 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-27 22:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:40 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 13:43 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-29 14:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-22 12:24 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 17:51 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 4/8] net: phylink: add option to sync in-band autoneg setting between PCS and PHY Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 5/8] net: phylink: explicitly configure in-band autoneg for on-board PHYs Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 10:09 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18 11:25 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 14:37 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 6/8] net: phy: mscc: configure in-band auto-negotiation for VSC8514 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 7/8] net: phy: at803x: validate in-band autoneg for AT8031/AT8033 Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-18 0:01 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 8/8] net: opt MAC drivers which use Lynx PCS into phylink sync_an_inband Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 18:38 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 0/8] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Sean Anderson
2022-11-21 19:44 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-21 22:42 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 0:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:10 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 16:30 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 16:45 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 17:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-11-22 18:09 ` Sean Anderson
2022-11-22 9:16 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-12-02 12:16 ` Maxim Kochetkov
2022-12-05 17:19 ` Vladimir Oltean
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