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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Rahul Rameshbabu <rrameshbabu@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>, Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Vincent Cheng <vincent.cheng.xh@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:08:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230119210842.5faf1e44@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmb9u90j.fsf@nvidia.com>

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:26:04 -0800 Rahul Rameshbabu wrote:
> One of my concerns with doing this is breaking userspace expectations.
> In linuxptp, there is a configuration setting "write_phase_mode" and an
> expectation that when adjphase is called, there will not be a fallback
> to adjtime. This because adjphase is used in situations where small fine
> tuning is explicitly needed, so the errors would indicate a logical or
> situational error.

I don't mean fallback - just do what you do in mlx5 directly in 
the core. The driver already does:

if delta < MAX
	use precise method
else
	use coarse method

> Quoting Vincent Cheng, the author of the adjphase functionality in the
> ptp core stack.
> 
> -----BEGIN QUOTE-----
>   adjtime modifies HW counter with a value to move the 1 PPS abruptly to new location.
>   adjphase modifies the frequency to quickly nudge the 1 PPS to new location and also includes a HW filter to smooth out the adjustments and fine tune frequency.
> 
>   Continuous small offset adjustments using adjtime, likley see sudden shifts of the 1 PPS.  The 1 PPS probably disappears and re-appears.
>   Continuous small offset adjustments using adjphase, should see continuous 1 PPS.
> 
>   adjtime is good for large offset corrections
>   adjphase is good for small offset corrections to allow HW filter to control the frequency instead of relying on SW filter.

Hm, so are you saying that:

adjtime(delta):
	clock += delta

but:

adjfreq(delta):
	on clock tick & while delta > 0:
		clock += small_value
		delta -= small_value

because from looking at mlx5 driver code its unclear whether the
implementation does a precise but one shot adjustment or gradual
adjustments.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20  5:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18 18:35 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-01-18 Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Suppress Send WQEBB room warning for PAGE_SIZE >= 16KB Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:31   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  4:00   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Suppress error logging on UCTX creation Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:32   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:33   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  3:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  3:56       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  4:03         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  4:26           ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:08             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-01-20  5:22               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:45                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  6:02                   ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20 17:21             ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20 18:00               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20 23:58                 ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-21  0:06                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-22 21:11                     ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23  2:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23  2:48                         ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23  2:58                           ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:44                             ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23 19:13                               ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-23 22:39                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 22:36                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-24 10:33                                 ` Bar Shapira
2023-01-24 19:15                                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-25  0:48                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-25  2:26                                       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-25  8:28                                       ` Gal Pressman
2023-01-23  2:15                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:14                     ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: Add hardware extended range support for PTP adjtime and adjphase Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:35   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: E-switch, Remove redundant comment about meta rules Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:40   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5e: Fail with messages when params are not valid for XSK Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:41   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5e: Add warning when log WQE size is smaller than log stride size Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Pass flow attr to attach/detach mod hdr functions Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Add tc prefix to attach/detach " Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:44   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Use common function allocating flow mod hdr or encap mod hdr Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Warn when destroying mod hdr hash table that is not empty Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5: E-Switch, Fix typo for egress Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:46   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Support Geneve and GRE with VF tunnel offload Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:48   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5e: Remove redundant allocation of spec in create indirect fwd group Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:50   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5e: Use read lock for eswitch get callbacks Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:51   ` Jacob Keller

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