From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [patch net-next] net: virtio_net: implement exact header length guest feature
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:55:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230220074947-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/MwtAGru3yAY7r3@nanopsycho>
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:35:00AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:47:36PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:53:55PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:22:01PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote:
> >> >On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:15:47PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> >> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> virtio_net_hdr_from_skb() fills up hdr_len to skb_headlen(skb).
> >> >>
> >> >> Virtio spec introduced a feature VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN which when
> >> >> set implicates that the driver provides the exact size of the header.
> >> >>
> >> >> The driver already complies to fill the correct value. Introduce the
> >> >> feature and advertise it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
> >> >
> >> >Could you add a bit of motivation just for the record?
> >> >Does this improve performance for some card? By how much?
> >> >Expected to help some future card?
> >>
> >> I can get that info, but isn't that rather something to be appended to
> >> the virtio-spec patch? I mean, the feature is there, this is just
> >> implementing it in one driver.
> >
> >It is more like using it in the driver. It's not like we have to use
> >everything - it could be useful for e.g. dpdk but not linux.
> >Implementing it in the Linux driver has support costs - for example what
> >if there's a bug and sometimes the length is incorrect?
> >We'll be breaking things.
>
> I understand. To my understanding this feature just fixes the original
> ambiguity in the virtio spec.
>
> Quoting the original virtio spec:
> "hdr_len is a hint to the device as to how much of the header needs to
> be kept to copy into each packet"
>
> "a hint" might not be clear for the reader what does it mean, if it is
> "maybe like that" of "exactly like that". This feature just makes it
> crystal clear.
>
> If you look at the tap implementation, it uses hdr_len to alloc
> skb linear part. No hint, it counts with the provided value.
> So if the driver is currently not precise, it breaks tap.
Well that's only for gso though right?
And making it bigger than necessary works fine ...
> I will add this to the patch description and send v2.
>
I feel this does not answer the question yet, or maybe I am being dense.
My point was not about making hdr_len precise. My point was that we are
making a change here for no apparent reason. I am guessing you are not
doing it for fun - so why? Is there a device with this feature bit
you are aware of?
>
> >
> >The patch was submitted by Marvell but they never bothered with
> >using it in Linux. I guess they are using it for something else?
> >CC Vitaly who put this in.
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> ---
> >> >> drivers/net/virtio_net.c | 6 ++++--
> >> >> include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h | 1 +
> >> >> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> >>
> >> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >> >> index fb5e68ed3ec2..e85b03988733 100644
> >> >> --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >> >> +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> >> >> @@ -62,7 +62,8 @@ static const unsigned long guest_offloads[] = {
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_UFO,
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_CSUM,
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_USO4,
> >> >> - VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_USO6
> >> >> + VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_USO6,
> >> >> + VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN
> >> >> };
> >> >>
> >> >> #define GUEST_OFFLOAD_GRO_HW_MASK ((1ULL << VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_TSO4) | \
> >> >> @@ -4213,7 +4214,8 @@ static struct virtio_device_id id_table[] = {
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR, \
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_GUEST_OFFLOADS, \
> >> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_SPEED_DUPLEX, VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY, \
> >> >> - VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS, VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT, VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL
> >> >> + VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS, VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT, VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL, \
> >> >> + VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN
> >> >>
> >> >> static unsigned int features[] = {
> >> >> VIRTNET_FEATURES,
> >> >> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >> >> index b4062bed186a..12c1c9699935 100644
> >> >> --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >> >> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> >> >> @@ -61,6 +61,7 @@
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_USO6 55 /* Guest can handle USOv6 in. */
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_USO 56 /* Host can handle USO in. */
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT 57 /* Supports hash report */
> >> >> +#define VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN 59 /* Guest provides the exact hdr_len value. */
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS 60 /* Supports RSS RX steering */
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT 61 /* extended coalescing info */
> >> >> #define VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY 62 /* Act as standby for another device
> >> >> --
> >> >> 2.39.0
> >> >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-20 12:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-17 12:15 [patch net-next] net: virtio_net: implement exact header length guest feature Jiri Pirko
2023-02-17 12:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-17 12:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-17 13:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-20 8:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-20 12:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-20 13:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-20 22:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 12:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-21 2:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-02-21 12:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-21 2:24 ` Jason Wang
2023-02-21 13:39 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-21 14:27 ` Jiri Pirko
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