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* [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
@ 2023-03-11  5:01 Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros Jakub Kicinski
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2023-03-11  5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni
  Cc: alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin, Jakub Kicinski

A lot of drivers follow the same scheme to stop / start queues
without introducing locks between xmit and NAPI tx completions.
I'm guessing they all copy'n'paste each other's code.

Smaller drivers shy away from the scheme and introduce a lock
which may cause deadlocks in netpoll.

Provide macros which encapsulate the necessary logic.

Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
---
 include/net/netdev_queues.h | 166 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 166 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 include/net/netdev_queues.h

diff --git a/include/net/netdev_queues.h b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..2a857faf28d8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
@@ -0,0 +1,166 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _LINUX_NET_QUEUES_H
+#define _LINUX_NET_QUEUES_H
+
+#include <linux/netdevice.h>
+
+/* Lockless queue stopping / waking helpers.
+ *
+ * These macroes are designed to safely implement stopping and waking
+ * netdev queues without any lock protection. We assume that there can
+ * be no concurrent stop attempts and no concurrent wake attempts.
+ * This is usually true as stop attempts happen from the xmit handler,
+ * while wake up is triggered from NAPI poll context. The two may run
+ * concurrently but are each protected by a lock (SPSC of sorts).
+ *
+ * All descriptor ring indexes (and other relevant shared state) must
+ * be updated before invoking the macros.
+ */
+
+#define netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, get_desc, start_thrs)		\
+	({								\
+		int _res;						\
+									\
+		netif_tx_stop_queue(txq);				\
+									\
+		smp_mb();						\
+									\
+		/* We need to check again in a case another		\
+		 * CPU has just made room available.			\
+		 */							\
+		if (likely(get_desc < start_thrs)) {			\
+			_res = 0;					\
+		} else {						\
+			netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);			\
+			_res = -1;					\
+		}							\
+		_res;							\
+	})								\
+
+/**
+ * netif_tx_queue_maybe_stop() - locklessly stop a Tx queue, if needed
+ * @txq:	struct netdev_queue to stop/start
+ * @get_desc:	get current number of free descriptors (see requirements below!)
+ * @stop_thrs:	minimal number of available descriptors for queue to be left
+ *		enabled
+ * @start_thrs:	minimal number of descriptors to re-enable the queue, can be
+ *		equal to @stop_thrs or higher to avoid frequent waking
+ *
+ * All arguments may be evaluated multiple times, beware of side effects.
+ * @get_desc must be a formula or a function call, it must always
+ * return up-to-date information when evaluated!
+ *
+ * Returns:
+ *	 0 if the queue was stopped
+ *	 1 if the queue was left enabled
+ *	-1 if the queue was re-enabled (raced with waking)
+ */
+#define netif_tx_queue_maybe_stop(txq, get_desc, stop_thrs, start_thrs)	\
+	({								\
+		int _res;						\
+									\
+		if (likely(get_desc > stop_thrs))			\
+			_res = 1;					\
+		else							\
+			_res = netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, get_desc,	\
+						       start_thrs);	\
+		_res;							\
+	})								\
+
+#define __netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs, down_cond) \
+	({								\
+		int _res;						\
+									\
+		/* Make sure that anybody stopping the queue after	\
+		 * this sees the new next_to_clean.			\
+		 */							\
+		smp_mb();						\
+		if (netif_tx_queue_stopped(txq) && !(down_cond)) {	\
+			netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);			\
+			_res = 0;					\
+		} else {						\
+			_res = 1;					\
+		}							\
+		_res;							\
+	})
+
+#define netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs)		\
+	__netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs, false)
+
+/**
+ * __netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake() - locklessly wake a Tx queue, if needed
+ * @txq:	struct netdev_queue to stop/start
+ * @get_desc:	get current number of free descriptors (see requirements below!)
+ * @start_thrs:	minimal number of descriptors to re-enable the queue
+ * @down_cond:	down condition, perdicate indicating that the queue should
+ *		not be woken up even if descriptors are available
+ *
+ * All arguments may be evaluated multiple times.
+ * @get_desc must be a formula or a function call, it must always
+ * return up-to-date information when evaluated!
+ *
+ * Returns:
+ *	 0 if the queue was woken up
+ *	 1 if the queue was already enabled (or disabled but @down_cond is true)
+ *	-1 if the queue was left stopped
+ */
+#define __netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs, down_cond) \
+	({								\
+		int _res;						\
+									\
+		if (likely(get_desc < start_thrs))			\
+			_res = -1;					\
+		else							\
+			_res = __netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc,	\
+							 start_thrs,	\
+							 down_cond);	\
+		_res;							\
+	})
+
+#define netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs)		\
+	__netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs, false)
+
+/* subqueue variants follow */
+
+#define netif_subqueue_try_stop(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs)		\
+	({								\
+		struct netdev_queue *txq;				\
+									\
+		txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, idx);			\
+		netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, get_desc, start_thrs);	\
+	})
+
+#define netif_subqueue_maybe_stop(dev, idx, get_desc, stop_thrs, start_thrs) \
+	({								\
+		struct netdev_queue *txq;				\
+									\
+		txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, idx);			\
+		netif_tx_queue_maybe_stop(txq, get_desc,		\
+					  stop_thrs, start_thrs);	\
+	})
+
+#define __netif_subqueue_try_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs, down_cond) \
+	({								\
+		struct netdev_queue *txq;				\
+									\
+		txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, idx);			\
+		__netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc,		\
+					  start_thrs, down_cond);	\
+	})
+
+#define netif_subqueue_try_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs)		\
+	__netif_subqueue_try_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs, false)
+
+#define __netif_subqueue_maybe_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs, down_cond) \
+	({								\
+		struct netdev_queue *txq;				\
+									\
+		txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, idx);			\
+		__netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, get_desc,		\
+					    start_thrs, down_cond);	\
+	})
+
+#define netif_subqueue_maybe_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs)	\
+	__netif_subqueue_maybe_wake(dev, idx, get_desc, start_thrs, false)
+
+#endif
-- 
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* [RFC net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros
  2023-03-11  5:01 [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
@ 2023-03-11  5:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 3/3] bnxt: " Jakub Kicinski
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2023-03-11  5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni
  Cc: alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin, Jakub Kicinski

Convert ixgbe to use the new macros, I think a lot of people
copy the ixgbe code.

Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
---
 drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbe/ixgbe_main.c | 37 +++++--------------
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbe/ixgbe_main.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbe/ixgbe_main.c
index 773c35fecace..db00e50a40ff 100644
--- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbe/ixgbe_main.c
+++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbe/ixgbe_main.c
@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
 #include <net/tc_act/tc_mirred.h>
 #include <net/vxlan.h>
 #include <net/mpls.h>
+#include <net/netdev_queues.h>
 #include <net/xdp_sock_drv.h>
 #include <net/xfrm.h>
 
@@ -1253,20 +1254,12 @@ static bool ixgbe_clean_tx_irq(struct ixgbe_q_vector *q_vector,
 				  total_packets, total_bytes);
 
 #define TX_WAKE_THRESHOLD (DESC_NEEDED * 2)
-	if (unlikely(total_packets && netif_carrier_ok(tx_ring->netdev) &&
-		     (ixgbe_desc_unused(tx_ring) >= TX_WAKE_THRESHOLD))) {
-		/* Make sure that anybody stopping the queue after this
-		 * sees the new next_to_clean.
-		 */
-		smp_mb();
-		if (__netif_subqueue_stopped(tx_ring->netdev,
-					     tx_ring->queue_index)
-		    && !test_bit(__IXGBE_DOWN, &adapter->state)) {
-			netif_wake_subqueue(tx_ring->netdev,
-					    tx_ring->queue_index);
-			++tx_ring->tx_stats.restart_queue;
-		}
-	}
+	if (total_packets && netif_carrier_ok(tx_ring->netdev) &&
+	    !__netif_subqueue_maybe_wake(tx_ring->netdev, tx_ring->queue_index,
+					 ixgbe_desc_unused(tx_ring),
+					 TX_WAKE_THRESHOLD,
+					 test_bit(__IXGBE_DOWN, &adapter->state)))
+		++tx_ring->tx_stats.restart_queue;
 
 	return !!budget;
 }
@@ -8270,22 +8263,10 @@ static void ixgbe_tx_olinfo_status(union ixgbe_adv_tx_desc *tx_desc,
 
 static int __ixgbe_maybe_stop_tx(struct ixgbe_ring *tx_ring, u16 size)
 {
-	netif_stop_subqueue(tx_ring->netdev, tx_ring->queue_index);
-
-	/* Herbert's original patch had:
-	 *  smp_mb__after_netif_stop_queue();
-	 * but since that doesn't exist yet, just open code it.
-	 */
-	smp_mb();
-
-	/* We need to check again in a case another CPU has just
-	 * made room available.
-	 */
-	if (likely(ixgbe_desc_unused(tx_ring) < size))
+	if (!netif_subqueue_try_stop(tx_ring->netdev, tx_ring->queue_index,
+				     ixgbe_desc_unused(tx_ring), size))
 		return -EBUSY;
 
-	/* A reprieve! - use start_queue because it doesn't call schedule */
-	netif_start_subqueue(tx_ring->netdev, tx_ring->queue_index);
 	++tx_ring->tx_stats.restart_queue;
 	return 0;
 }
-- 
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* [RFC net-next 3/3] bnxt: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros
  2023-03-11  5:01 [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros Jakub Kicinski
@ 2023-03-11  5:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11 16:28 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Stephen Hemminger
  2023-04-04  3:29 ` Herbert Xu
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2023-03-11  5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni
  Cc: alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin, Jakub Kicinski

Convert bnxt to use new macros rather than open code the logic.

Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
---
 drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c | 41 +++++------------------
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c
index dceaecab6605..b52d1e5d0ac7 100644
--- a/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c
+++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c
@@ -56,6 +56,7 @@
 #include <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>
 #include <net/page_pool.h>
 #include <linux/align.h>
+#include <net/netdev_queues.h>
 
 #include "bnxt_hsi.h"
 #include "bnxt.h"
@@ -331,26 +332,6 @@ static void bnxt_txr_db_kick(struct bnxt *bp, struct bnxt_tx_ring_info *txr,
 	txr->kick_pending = 0;
 }
 
-static bool bnxt_txr_netif_try_stop_queue(struct bnxt *bp,
-					  struct bnxt_tx_ring_info *txr,
-					  struct netdev_queue *txq)
-{
-	netif_tx_stop_queue(txq);
-
-	/* netif_tx_stop_queue() must be done before checking
-	 * tx index in bnxt_tx_avail() below, because in
-	 * bnxt_tx_int(), we update tx index before checking for
-	 * netif_tx_queue_stopped().
-	 */
-	smp_mb();
-	if (bnxt_tx_avail(bp, txr) >= bp->tx_wake_thresh) {
-		netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);
-		return false;
-	}
-
-	return true;
-}
-
 static netdev_tx_t bnxt_start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 {
 	struct bnxt *bp = netdev_priv(dev);
@@ -384,7 +365,8 @@ static netdev_tx_t bnxt_start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 		if (net_ratelimit() && txr->kick_pending)
 			netif_warn(bp, tx_err, dev,
 				   "bnxt: ring busy w/ flush pending!\n");
-		if (bnxt_txr_netif_try_stop_queue(bp, txr, txq))
+		if (!netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, bnxt_tx_avail(bp, txr),
+					     bp->tx_wake_thresh))
 			return NETDEV_TX_BUSY;
 	}
 
@@ -614,7 +596,8 @@ static netdev_tx_t bnxt_start_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 		if (netdev_xmit_more() && !tx_buf->is_push)
 			bnxt_txr_db_kick(bp, txr, prod);
 
-		bnxt_txr_netif_try_stop_queue(bp, txr, txq);
+		netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, bnxt_tx_avail(bp, txr),
+					bp->tx_wake_thresh);
 	}
 	return NETDEV_TX_OK;
 
@@ -708,17 +691,9 @@ static void bnxt_tx_int(struct bnxt *bp, struct bnxt_napi *bnapi, int nr_pkts)
 	netdev_tx_completed_queue(txq, nr_pkts, tx_bytes);
 	txr->tx_cons = cons;
 
-	/* Need to make the tx_cons update visible to bnxt_start_xmit()
-	 * before checking for netif_tx_queue_stopped().  Without the
-	 * memory barrier, there is a small possibility that bnxt_start_xmit()
-	 * will miss it and cause the queue to be stopped forever.
-	 */
-	smp_mb();
-
-	if (unlikely(netif_tx_queue_stopped(txq)) &&
-	    bnxt_tx_avail(bp, txr) >= bp->tx_wake_thresh &&
-	    READ_ONCE(txr->dev_state) != BNXT_DEV_STATE_CLOSING)
-		netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);
+	__netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, bnxt_tx_avail(bp, txr),
+				    bp->tx_wake_thresh,
+				    READ_ONCE(txr->dev_state) != BNXT_DEV_STATE_CLOSING);
 }
 
 static struct page *__bnxt_alloc_rx_page(struct bnxt *bp, dma_addr_t *mapping,
-- 
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* Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
  2023-03-11  5:01 [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros Jakub Kicinski
  2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 3/3] bnxt: " Jakub Kicinski
@ 2023-03-11 16:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
  2023-03-13  1:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
  2023-04-04  3:29 ` Herbert Xu
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2023-03-11 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Kicinski
  Cc: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni, alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:01:28 -0800
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:

> A lot of drivers follow the same scheme to stop / start queues
> without introducing locks between xmit and NAPI tx completions.
> I'm guessing they all copy'n'paste each other's code.
> 
> Smaller drivers shy away from the scheme and introduce a lock
> which may cause deadlocks in netpoll.
> 
> Provide macros which encapsulate the necessary logic.

Could any of these be inline functions instead for type safety?

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* Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
  2023-03-11 16:28 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Stephen Hemminger
@ 2023-03-13  1:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
  2023-03-13  1:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Willem de Bruijn @ 2023-03-13  1:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger, Jakub Kicinski
  Cc: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni, alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin

Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:01:28 -0800
> Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > A lot of drivers follow the same scheme to stop / start queues
> > without introducing locks between xmit and NAPI tx completions.
> > I'm guessing they all copy'n'paste each other's code.
> > 
> > Smaller drivers shy away from the scheme and introduce a lock
> > which may cause deadlocks in netpoll.
> > 
> > Provide macros which encapsulate the necessary logic.
> 
> Could any of these be inline functions instead for type safety?

I suppose not because of the condition that is evaluated.

Btw: perdicate -> predicate

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* Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
  2023-03-13  1:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
@ 2023-03-13  1:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
  2023-03-13 20:56       ` Jakub Kicinski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2023-03-13  1:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Willem de Bruijn
  Cc: Jakub Kicinski, netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni, alexanderduyck,
	roman.gushchin

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 21:37:39 -0400
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:01:28 -0800
> > Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > A lot of drivers follow the same scheme to stop / start queues
> > > without introducing locks between xmit and NAPI tx completions.
> > > I'm guessing they all copy'n'paste each other's code.
> > > 
> > > Smaller drivers shy away from the scheme and introduce a lock
> > > which may cause deadlocks in netpoll.
> > > 
> > > Provide macros which encapsulate the necessary logic.  
> > 
> > Could any of these be inline functions instead for type safety?  
> 
> I suppose not because of the condition that is evaluated.

It is more that the condition needs to evaluated after some other
pre-conditions.

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* Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
  2023-03-13  1:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
@ 2023-03-13 20:56       ` Jakub Kicinski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2023-03-13 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger
  Cc: Willem de Bruijn, netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni, alexanderduyck,
	roman.gushchin

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 18:45:15 -0700 Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > Could any of these be inline functions instead for type safety?    
> > 
> > I suppose not because of the condition that is evaluated.  
> 
> It is more that the condition needs to evaluated after some other
> pre-conditions.

Right, I think I could slice off individual chunks and wrap them in
static inlines, but I reckon the result is relatively readable now?

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* Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
  2023-03-11  5:01 [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2023-03-11 16:28 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Stephen Hemminger
@ 2023-04-04  3:29 ` Herbert Xu
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Herbert Xu @ 2023-04-04  3:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Kicinski
  Cc: netdev, davem, edumazet, pabeni, alexanderduyck, roman.gushchin,
	kuba

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> +#define netif_tx_queue_try_stop(txq, get_desc, start_thrs)             \
> +       ({                                                              \
> +               int _res;                                               \
> +                                                                       \
> +               netif_tx_stop_queue(txq);                               \
> +                                                                       \
> +               smp_mb();                                               \

We should never have an smp_mb by itself.  It must come with a
comment indicating which other barrier (possibly implicit) it
pairs with.

I know that you're just copying old code around, but by turning
it into a helper, we should treat it as new code and apply the
current requirements.

Thanks,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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2023-03-11  5:01 [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-11  5:01 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros Jakub Kicinski
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2023-03-11 16:28 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Stephen Hemminger
2023-03-13  1:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
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