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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 11:58:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230401115854.371a5b4c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c39312a2-4537-14b4-270c-9fe1fbb91e89@gmail.com>

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:18:12 +0200 Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> > +#define __netif_tx_queue_maybe_wake(txq, get_desc, start_thrs, down_cond) \
> > +	({								\
> > +		int _res;						\
> > +									\
> > +		_res = -1;						\  
> 
> One more question: Don't we need a read memory barrier here to ensure
> get_desc is up-to-date?

CC: Alex, maybe I should not be posting after 10pm, with the missing v2
and sparse CC list.. :|

I was thinking about this too yesterday. AFAICT this implementation
could indeed result in waking even tho the queue is full on non-x86.
That's why the drivers have an extra check at the start of .xmit? :(

I *think* that the right ordering would be:

WRITE cons
mb()  # A
READ stopped
rmb() # C
READ prod, cons

And on the producer side (existing):

WRITE prod
READ prod, cons
mb()  # B
WRITE stopped
READ prod, cons

But I'm slightly afraid to change it, it's been working for over 
a decade :D

One neat thing that I noticed, which we could potentially exploit 
if we were to touch this code is that BQL already has a smp_mb() 
on the consumer side. So on any kernel config and driver which support
BQL we can use that instead of adding another barrier at #A.

It would actually be a neat optimization because right now, AFAICT,
completion will fire the # A -like barrier almost every time.

> > +		if (likely(get_desc > start_thrs))			\
> > +			_res = __netif_tx_queue_try_wake(txq, get_desc,	\
> > +							 start_thrs,	\
> > +							 down_cond);	\
> > +		_res;							\
> > +	})

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-01 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-01  5:12 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01  5:12 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] " Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01 15:04   ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-04-01 18:03     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01 15:18   ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-04-01 18:58     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-04-01 20:41       ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-04-03 15:18       ` Alexander Duyck
2023-04-03 15:56         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-03 18:11           ` Alexander Duyck
2023-04-03 19:03             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-03 20:27               ` Alexander Duyck
2023-04-05 22:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-04-06  5:15                   ` Herbert Xu
2023-04-06 14:17                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-04-06 14:46                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-06 15:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-04-06 15:56                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-06 16:25                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-04-07  0:58                         ` Herbert Xu
2023-04-07  1:03                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07  1:14                             ` Herbert Xu
2023-04-07  1:21                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-04  6:39         ` Herbert Xu
2023-04-04 22:36           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01  5:12 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] ixgbe: use new queue try_stop/try_wake macros Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01  5:12 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] bnxt: " Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-01 18:35   ` Michael Chan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-22 23:30 [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: provide macros for commonly copied lockless queue stop/wake code Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23  0:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-03-23  1:04   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23 21:02     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-03-23 22:46       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23  3:05 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-03-23  3:27   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23  4:53 ` Pavan Chebbi
2023-03-23  5:08   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23 16:05 ` Alexander H Duyck
2023-03-24  3:09   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-24 15:45     ` Alexander Duyck
2023-03-24 21:28       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-26 21:23         ` Alexander Duyck
2023-03-29  0:56           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-30 14:56             ` Paolo Abeni

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