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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
	brett.creeley@amd.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, drivers@pensando.io, jiri@resnulli.us
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 13/14] pds_core: publish events to the clients
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:44:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230413164434.GT17993@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230413081410.2cbaf2a2@kernel.org>

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 08:14:10AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 11:55:01 +0300 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/amd/pds_core/adminq.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/amd/pds_core/adminq.c
> > > > > index 25c7dd0d37e5..bb18ac1aabab 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/amd/pds_core/adminq.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/amd/pds_core/adminq.c
> > > > > @@ -27,11 +27,13 @@ static int pdsc_process_notifyq(struct pdsc_qcq *qcq)
> > > > >                case PDS_EVENT_LINK_CHANGE:
> > > > >                        dev_info(pdsc->dev, "NotifyQ LINK_CHANGE ecode %d eid %lld\n",
> > > > >                                 ecode, eid);
> > > > > +                     pdsc_notify(PDS_EVENT_LINK_CHANGE, comp);  
> > > > 
> > > > Aren't you "resending" standard netdev event?
> > > > It will be better to send only custom, specific to pds_core events,
> > > > while leaving general ones to netdev.  
> > > 
> > > We have no netdev in pds_core, so we have to publish this to clients that
> > > might have a netdev or some other need to know.  
> > 
> > I don't know netdev well enough if it is ok or not and maybe netdev will
> > sent this LINK_CHANGE by itself anyway.
> > 
> > Jakub???
> 
> I actually prefer for the driver to distribute the event via its own
> means than some random borderline proprietary stuff outside of netdev
> using netdev events.

ok

> 
> > > > We can argue if clients should get this event. Once reset is detected,
> > > > the pds_core should close devices by deleting aux drivers.  
> > > 
> > > We can get a reset signal from the device when it has done a crash recovery
> > > or when it is preparing to do an update, and this allows clients to quiesce
> > > their operations when reset.state==0 and restart when they see
> > > reset.state==1  
> > 
> > I don't think that it is safe behaviour from user POV. If FW resets
> > itself under the hood, how can client be sure that nothing changes
> > in its operation? Once FW reset occurs, it is much safer for the clients
> > to reconfigure everything.
> 
> What's the argument exactly? We do have async resets including in mlx5,
> grep for enable_remote_dev_reset

I think that it is different. I'm complaining that during FW reset,
auxiliary devices are not recreated and continue to be connected to
physical device with a hope that everything will continue to work from
kernel and FW perspective.

It is different from enable_remote_dev_reset, where someone externally
resets device which will trigger mlx5_device_rescan() routine through
mlx5_unload_one->mlx5_load_one sequence.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 23:41 [PATCH v9 net-next 00/14] pds_core driver Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 01/14] pds_core: initial framework for pds_core PF driver Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:26   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 18:41     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 02/14] pds_core: add devcmd device interfaces Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:46   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:05     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:33       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 15:08         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-14  0:00         ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 03/14] pds_core: health timer and workqueue Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:51   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:12     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 04/14] pds_core: add devlink health facilities Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:54   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:18     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 05/14] pds_core: set up device and adminq Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:03   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:27     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 06/14] pds_core: Add adminq processing and commands Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 07/14] pds_core: add FW update feature to devlink Shannon Nelson
2023-04-10 15:44   ` Simon Horman
2023-04-10 22:59     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 08/14] pds_core: set up the VIF definitions and defaults Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:08   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:36     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:36       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 09/14] pds_core: add initial VF device handling Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 10/14] pds_core: add auxiliary_bus devices Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:23   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 20:02     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:43       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 11/14] pds_core: devlink params for enabling VIF support Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 12/14] pds_core: add the aux client API Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:07   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 20:50     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:45       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 13/14] pds_core: publish events to the clients Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:11   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 21:01     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:55       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 15:14         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 16:44           ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2023-04-13 16:55             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 17:07               ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 17:10                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 23:42                   ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-14  8:51                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 14/14] pds_core: Kconfig and pds_core.rst Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:17   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 21:05     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-08  3:18 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 00/14] pds_core driver Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-10 20:00 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-10 21:05   ` Shannon Nelson

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