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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
	brett.creeley@amd.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, drivers@pensando.io, jiri@resnulli.us
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 13/14] pds_core: publish events to the clients
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 20:07:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230413170704.GV17993@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230413095509.7f15e22c@kernel.org>

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 09:55:09AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:44:34 +0300 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > I don't think that it is safe behaviour from user POV. If FW resets
> > > > itself under the hood, how can client be sure that nothing changes
> > > > in its operation? Once FW reset occurs, it is much safer for the clients
> > > > to reconfigure everything.  
> > > 
> > > What's the argument exactly? We do have async resets including in mlx5,
> > > grep for enable_remote_dev_reset  
> > 
> > I think that it is different. I'm complaining that during FW reset,
> > auxiliary devices are not recreated and continue to be connected to
> > physical device with a hope that everything will continue to work from
> > kernel and FW perspective.
> > 
> > It is different from enable_remote_dev_reset, where someone externally
> > resets device which will trigger mlx5_device_rescan() routine through
> > mlx5_unload_one->mlx5_load_one sequence.
> 
> Hm, my memory may be incorrect and I didn't look at the code but 
> I thought that knob came from the "hit-less upgrade" effort.
> And for "hit-less upgrade" not respawning the devices was the whole
> point.
> 
> Which is not to disagree with you. What I'm trying to get at is that
> there are different types of reset which deserve different treatment.

I don't disagree with you either, just have a feeling that proposed
behaviour is wrong.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 23:41 [PATCH v9 net-next 00/14] pds_core driver Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 01/14] pds_core: initial framework for pds_core PF driver Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:26   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 18:41     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 02/14] pds_core: add devcmd device interfaces Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:46   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:05     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:33       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 15:08         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-14  0:00         ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 03/14] pds_core: health timer and workqueue Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:51   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:12     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 04/14] pds_core: add devlink health facilities Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 11:54   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:18     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 05/14] pds_core: set up device and adminq Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:03   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:27     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 06/14] pds_core: Add adminq processing and commands Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 07/14] pds_core: add FW update feature to devlink Shannon Nelson
2023-04-10 15:44   ` Simon Horman
2023-04-10 22:59     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 08/14] pds_core: set up the VIF definitions and defaults Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:08   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 19:36     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:36       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 09/14] pds_core: add initial VF device handling Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 10/14] pds_core: add auxiliary_bus devices Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 12:23   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 20:02     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:43       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 11/14] pds_core: devlink params for enabling VIF support Shannon Nelson
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 12/14] pds_core: add the aux client API Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:07   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 20:50     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:45       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 13/14] pds_core: publish events to the clients Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:11   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 21:01     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-13  8:55       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 15:14         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 16:44           ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-13 16:55             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 17:07               ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2023-04-13 17:10                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 23:42                   ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-14  8:51                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-06 23:41 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 14/14] pds_core: Kconfig and pds_core.rst Shannon Nelson
2023-04-09 17:17   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-04-10 21:05     ` Shannon Nelson
2023-04-08  3:18 ` [PATCH v9 net-next 00/14] pds_core driver Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-10 20:00 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-10 21:05   ` Shannon Nelson

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