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From: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, glipus@gmail.com,
	maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev,
	richardcochran@gmail.com, gerhard@engleder-embedded.com,
	thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v4 4/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable.
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 11:04:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230515110432.63b94557@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230511163547.120f76b8@kernel.org>

On Thu, 11 May 2023 16:35:47 -0700
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 May 2023 02:18:03 +0300 Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > > Why can't we treat ndo_hwtstamp_set() == -EOPNOTSUPP as a signal 
> > > to call the PHY? ndo_hwtstamp_set() does not exist, we can give
> > > it whatever semantics we want.    
> > 
> > Hmm, because if we do that, bridged DSA switch ports without hardware
> > timestamping support and without logic to trap PTP to the CPU will just
> > spew those PTP frames with PHY hardware timestamps everywhere, instead
> > of just telling the user hey, the configuration isn't supported?  
> 
> I see, so there is a legit reason to abort. 
> 
> We could use one of the high error codes, then, to signal 
> the "I didn't care, please carry on to the PHY" condition?
> -ENOTSUPP?
> 
> I guess we can add a separate "please configure traps for PTP/NTP" 
> NDO, if you prefer. Mostly an implementation detail.

I am not as expert as you on the network stack therefore I am trying to follow
and understand all the remarks. Please correct me if I say something wrong. It
is interesting to understand all the complications that these changes bring.

To summary, what do you think is preferable for this patch series?
- New ops for TS as suggested by Russell.

- Continue on this implementation and check that Vladimir A,B and C cases are
  handled. Which imply, if I understand well, find a good way to deal with PTP
  change trap (bit or new ndo ops), convert most drivers from IOCTL to NDO
  beforehand. 

- Add MAC-DMA TS? It think it is needed as MAC-DMA TS seems already used and
  different from simple MAC TS in term of quality, as described by Jakub.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-15  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 17:33 [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 1/5] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:16   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:49     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 16:56       ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 2/5] net: Expose available time stamping layers to user space Köry Maincent
2023-04-07  1:46   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07  8:58     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-07 14:26       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07 14:44         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:58       ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-12 10:50     ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 11:08       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 11:12         ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 12:19         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 20:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 20:50       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-11 20:55         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 21:02           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 22:09             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:07               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:16                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-12 10:29                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-12 17:38                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:46                         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-17 20:07                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-09-04 15:22                             ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-04 17:47                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-09-05 18:47                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-09-05 20:29                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-06  9:22                                     ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-07  9:29                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-19 13:28                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-19 20:22                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-22  3:56                           ` Zulkifli, Muhammad Husaini
2023-05-22 20:04                             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-22 20:21                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-23  3:54                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-17 22:01                   ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:13     ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:46       ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-18 23:23         ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-19 12:50           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-19 13:50             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-19 15:18               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-08 14:06   ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 3/5] dt-bindings: net: phy: add timestamp preferred choice property Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:14   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:44     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-29 17:42       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02  9:10         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:10           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 13:25             ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:56               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 14:22                 ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 14:14   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 4/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-07  1:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-29 17:58   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02 11:05     ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:48       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 15:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 15:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 16:25             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 20:54               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:08                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:18                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:35                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-15  9:04                       ` Köry Maincent [this message]
2023-05-16 19:28                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 21:06               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 22:54                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 22:19               ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 5/5] net: fix up drivers WRT phy time stamping Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:59 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent

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