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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Mike Freemon <mfreemon@cloudflare.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a sysctl to allow TCP window shrinking in order to honor memory limits
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:44:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230605154430.65d94106@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230605154229.6077983e@hermes.local>

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:42:29 -0700
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> > sysctl: net.ipv4.tcp_shrink_window
> > 
> > This sysctl changes how the TCP window is calculated.
> > 
> > If sysctl tcp_shrink_window is zero (the default value), then the
> > window is never shrunk.
> > 
> > If sysctl tcp_shrink_window is non-zero, then the memory limit
> > set by autotuning is honored.  This requires that the TCP window
> > be shrunk ("retracted") as described in RFC 1122.
> > 
> > [1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7323#appendix-F
> > [2] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7323#section-2.4
> > [3] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1122#page-91
> > [4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc793
> > [5] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1323
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mike Freemon <mfreemon@cloudflare.com>  
> 
> Does Linux TCP really need another tuning parameter?
> Will tests get run with both feature on and off?
> What default will distributions ship with?
> 
> Sounds like unbounded receive window growth is always a bad
> idea and a latent bug.

FYI - I worked in an environment where every bug fix had to have
a tuning parameter to turn it off. It was a bad idea, driven by
management problems with updating. The number of knobs lead
to confusion and geometric growth in possible code paths.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-05 20:38 [PATCH] Add a sysctl to allow TCP window shrinking in order to honor memory limits Mike Freemon
2023-06-05 22:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-06-05 22:44   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-06-06  2:09     ` Jason Xing
2023-06-06 15:17       ` Mike Freemon
2023-06-06 15:33         ` Eric Dumazet
2023-06-06 15:35           ` Neal Cardwell
2023-06-06 17:00             ` Mike Freemon
2023-06-06 14:54   ` Mike Freemon

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