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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	Muhammad Husaini Zulkifli <muhammad.husaini.zulkifli@intel.com>,
	Peilin Ye <yepeilin.cs@gmail.com>,
	Pedro Tammela <pctammela@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND net-next 0/5] Improve the taprio qdisc's relationship with its children
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 19:31:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606163156.7ee6uk7jevggmaba@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoM=qG9sDjM=F6D=i=h3dKXwQXAt1wui8W_EXDJi2tijRnw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 11:39:32AM -0400, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> 1)Just some details become confusing in regards to offload vs not; F.e
> class grafting (taprio_graft()) is de/activating the device but that
> seems only needed for offload. Would it not be better to have those
> separate and call graft_offload vs graft_software, etc? We really need
> to create a generic document on how someone would write code for
> qdiscs for consistency (I started working on one but never completed
> it - if there is a volunteer i would be happy to work with one to
> complete it).

I would be a happy reader of that document. I haven't studied whether
dev_deactivate() and dev_activate() are necessary for the pure software
data path, where the root taprio is also directly attached to the netdev
TXQs and that fact doesn't change across its lifetime.

> 2) It seems like in mqprio this qdisc can only be root qdisc (like
> mqprio)

so far so good

> and you dont want to replace the children with other types of
> qdiscs i.e the children are always pfifo? i.e is it possible or
> intended for example to replace 8001:x with bfifo etc? or even change
> the pfifo queue size, etc?

no, this is not true, why do you say this?

> 3) Offload intention seems really to be bypassing enqueue() and going
> straigth to the driver xmit() for a specific DMA ring that the skb is
> mapped to. Except for the case where the driver says it's busy and
> refuses to stash the skb in ring in which case you have to requeue to
> the appropriate child qdisc/class. I am not sure how that would work
> here - mqprio gets away with it by not defining any of the
> en/de/requeue() callbacks

wait, there is a requeue() callback? where?

> - but likely it will be the lack of requeue that makes it work.

Looking at dev_requeue_skb(), isn't it always going to be requeued to
the same qdisc it was originally dequeued from? I don't see what is the
problem.

My understanding of the offload intention is not really to bypass dequeue()
in general and as a matter of principle, but rather to bypass the root's
taprio_dequeue() specifically, as that could do unrelated work, and jump
right to the specific child's dequeue().

The child could have its own complex enqueue() and dequeue() and that is
perfectly fine - for example cbs_dequeue_soft() is a valid child dequeue
procedure - as long as the process isn't blocked in the sendmsg() call
by __qdisc_run() processing packets belonging to unrelated traffic
classes.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02 10:37 [PATCH RESEND net-next 0/5] Improve the taprio qdisc's relationship with its children Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 10:37 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 1/5] net/sched: taprio: don't access q->qdiscs[] in unoffloaded mode during attach() Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 10:37 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 2/5] net/sched: taprio: keep child Qdisc refcount elevated at 2 in offload mode Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-06 10:27   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-06 15:56     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-07 10:05       ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-07 10:16         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 10:37 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 3/5] net/sched: taprio: try again to report q->qdiscs[] to qdisc_leaf() Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 10:37 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 4/5] net/sched: taprio: delete misleading comment about preallocating child qdiscs Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 10:37 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 5/5] net/sched: taprio: dump class stats for the actual q->qdiscs[] Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-08 18:44   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-06-09 12:10     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-09 14:56       ` Victor Nogueira
2023-06-10 17:49         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-09 16:19       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-06-09 17:56         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-05 12:50 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next 0/5] Improve the taprio qdisc's relationship with its children Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-05 13:27   ` Simon Horman
2023-06-05 15:44 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-06-05 16:53   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-06 15:39     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-06-06 16:31       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2023-06-06 17:42         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-06-07 10:09           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-07 10:30             ` Vladimir Oltean

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