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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v2 7/7] net: skbuff: always try to recycle PP pages directly when in softirq
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:46:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230720124647.413363d5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e542f6b5-4eea-5ac6-a034-47e9f92dbf7e@intel.com>

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 21:33:40 +0200 Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> > We can as well check
> > 	(in_softirq() && !irqs_disabled() && !in_hardirq())
> > ?  
> 
> Yes, something like that. Messy, but I see no other options...
> 
> So, I guess you want to add an assertion to make sure that we're *not*
> in this:
> 
> in_hardirq() || irqs_disabled()
> 
> Does this mean that after it's added, my patch is sane? :p

Well... it's acceptable. Make sure you add a good, informative
but concise comment :)

> > The interrupt_context_level() thing is fairly new, I think.
> > Who knows what happens to it going forward...  
> 
> Well, it counts the number of active hard interrupts, but doesn't take
> into account that if there are no hardirqs we can still disable them
> manually. Meh.
> Should I try to send a patch for it? :D

Depends on how you like to send your time :)

> > netcons or anyone who freed socket-less skbs from hardirq.
> > Until pp recycling was added freeing an skb from hardirq was legal,
> > AFAICT.  
> 
> I don't think so. Why do we have dev_kfree_skb_any() then? It checks for
> 
> in_hardirq() || irqs_disabled()
> 
> and if it's true, defers the skb to process it by backlog task.
> "Regular" skb freeing functions don't do that. The _any() variant lives
> here for a long time IIRC, so it's not something recent.

Drivers (or any other users of dev_kfree_skb_any()) should be fine. 
I'm only paranoid about some unknown bits of code which thought they
can be clever and call kfree_skb() directly, as long as !skb->sk.

But if you add the hard irq checks to your patch then you're strictly
safer than the existing code. Hopefully the checks are not too
expensive.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-14 17:08 [PATCH RFC net-next v2 0/7] net: page_pool: a couple of assorted optimizations Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 1/7] net: skbuff: don't include <net/page_pool.h> to <linux/skbuff.h> Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 2/7] net: page_pool: place frag_* fields in one cacheline Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:14   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 18:37   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-07-18 13:50     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-26  8:13       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-07-26 10:39         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 2/7] net: page_pool: shrink &page_pool_params a tiny bit Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 3/7] net: page_pool: place frag_* fields in one cacheline Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 3/7] net: page_pool: shrink &page_pool_params a tiny bit Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 4/7] net: page_pool: don't use driver-set flags field directly Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 5/7] net: page_pool: avoid calling no-op externals when possible Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 6/7] net: skbuff: avoid accessing page_pool if !napi_safe when returning page Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-14 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 7/7] net: skbuff: always try to recycle PP pages directly when in softirq Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-19  0:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-19 16:34     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-19 20:51       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-20 16:46         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-20 17:12           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-20 17:48             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-20 18:00               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-20 18:01                 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-20 18:13                   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-20 19:20                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-20 19:33                       ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-20 19:46                         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-07-21 11:53                           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-21 15:37                             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-21 16:01                               ` Jakub Kicinski

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