From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v11 05/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev()
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 19:36:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230731193606.25233ed9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1690855424.7821567-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:03:44 +0800 Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > Virtio is either a SW
> > construct or offloaded to very capable HW, so either way cost of
> > creating an extra instance for DPDK or whatever else is very low.
>
> The extra instance is virtio-net?
>
> I think there is a gap. So let me give you a brief introduction of our case.
>
> Firstly, we donot use dpdk. We use the AF_XDP, because of that the AF_XDP is
> more simpler and easy to deploy for the nginx.
>
> We use the AF_XDP to speedup the UDP of the quic. By the library, the APP just
> needs some simple change.
>
> On the AliYun, the net driver is virtio-net. So we want the virtio-net support
> the AF_XDP.
>
> I guess what you mean is that we can speed up through the cooperation of devices
> and drivers, but our machines are public clouds, and we cannot change the
> back-end devices of virtio under normal circumstances.
>
> Here I do not know the different of the real hw and the virtio-net.
You have this working and benchmarked or this is just and idea?
What about io_uring zero copy w/ pre-registered buffers.
You'll get csum offload, GSO, all the normal perf features.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-01 2:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-10 3:42 [PATCH vhost v11 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 01/10] virtio_ring: check use_dma_api before unmap desc for indirect Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 02/10] virtio_ring: put mapping error check in vring_map_one_sg Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 03/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_set_premapped() Xuan Zhuo
[not found] ` <CACGkMEumF73qbByV3K1+fdgnXBXqu-YS2yas+Vy_=Dn+yjy-cw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-12 8:35 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 11:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 04/10] virtio_ring: support add premapped buf Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12 8:31 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12 8:33 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 05/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12 8:33 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13 11:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20 6:45 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20 6:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20 7:34 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-24 20:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 17:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-24 16:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-25 2:13 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-25 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-25 11:07 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-28 6:02 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-28 15:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-31 1:23 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-31 15:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-01 2:03 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01 2:36 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-08-01 2:57 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01 15:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-02 1:36 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-02 11:12 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-07-31 2:34 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01 16:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 1:49 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-07 6:14 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08 2:26 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08 2:47 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08 3:08 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08 3:09 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08 3:49 ` Jason Wang
[not found] ` <1691466855.2312648-3-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
2023-08-08 3:59 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10 1:56 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-10 6:37 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10 6:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 6:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 6:47 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 06/10] virtio_ring: skip unmap for premapped Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 3:50 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13 4:02 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 4:21 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13 5:45 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 07/10] virtio_ring: correct the expression of the description of virtqueue_resize() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 08/10] virtio_ring: separate the logic of reset/enable from virtqueue_resize Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 09/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_reset() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 10/10] virtio_net: merge dma operation for one page Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 9:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 10:18 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 12:38 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-11 2:36 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-11 2:40 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-11 2:58 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12 7:54 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12 8:32 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12 8:37 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12 8:38 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19 3:21 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-19 8:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19 9:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-19 9:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 2:26 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20 2:24 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 4:20 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13 5:53 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 6:51 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14 3:56 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20 7:41 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20 8:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 7:00 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14 3:57 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-14 3:58 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14 5:45 ` Jason Wang
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