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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Maglione, Gregorio" <Gregorio.Maglione@city.ac.uk>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rakocevic, Veselin" <Veselin.Rakocevic.1@city.ac.uk>,
	"Markus.Amend@telekom.de" <Markus.Amend@telekom.de>,
	"nathalie.romo-moreno@telekom.de"
	<nathalie.romo-moreno@telekom.de>
Subject: Re: DCCP Deprecation
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:15:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230816101547.1c292d64@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CWLP265MB644901EC2B8353A2AA2A813CC915A@CWLP265MB6449.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:26:07 +0000
"Maglione, Gregorio" <Gregorio.Maglione@city.ac.uk> wrote:

> > Is the scheduling in the kernel? If so yes, it will cause a MP-DCCP not to be accepted.
> > If it is all done in userspace, then it leaves option for someone to reinvent their own open source version.  
> 
> The protocol works at the kernel level, and has a GPL scheduler and reordering which are the default algorithms. The GitHub implementation includes some non-GPL schedulers and reordering algorithms used for testing, which can be removed if upstreaming.

IANAL

The implementation I looked at on github was in IMHO a GPL violation because it linked GPL
and non GPL code into a single module. That makes it a derived work.

If you put non-GPL scheduler into userspace, not a problem.

If you put non-GPL scheduler into a different kernel module, according to precedent
set by filesystems and other drivers; then it would be allowed.  BUT you would need
to only use exported API's not marked GPL.  And adding new EXPORT_SYMBOL() only
used by non-GPL code would get rejected. Kernel developers are openly hostile to non-GPL
code and would want any export symbols to be EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CWLP265MB6449FC7D80FB6DDEE9D76DA9C930A@CWLP265MB6449.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-07-10 18:22 ` DCCP Deprecation Kuniyuki Iwashima
2023-07-10 19:01   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-10 20:31   ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]     ` <CWLP265MB6449543ADBE7B64F5FE1D9F8C931A@CWLP265MB6449.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-07-11 10:06       ` Paolo Abeni
2023-08-16  9:38         ` Maglione, Gregorio
2023-08-16 15:00           ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-16 15:26             ` Maglione, Gregorio
2023-08-16 17:15               ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-08-18  9:35                 ` Maglione, Gregorio
2023-08-18 16:20                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-29 15:17                     ` Maglione, Gregorio
2023-08-30  0:38                       ` Jakub Kicinski

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