From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net,
edumazet@google.com, gal@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next] devlink: don't take instance lock for nested handle put
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:48:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231006074842.4908ead4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZR+1mc/BEDjNQy9A@nanopsycho>
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 09:22:01 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 03:30:29AM CEST, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
> >> @@ -310,6 +299,7 @@ static void devlink_release(struct work_struct *work)
> >>
> >> mutex_destroy(&devlink->lock);
> >> lockdep_unregister_key(&devlink->lock_key);
> >> + put_device(devlink->dev);
> >
> >IDK.. holding references until all references are gone may lead
> >to reference cycles :(
>
> I don't follow. What seems to be the problematic flow? I can't spot any
> reference cycle, do you?
I can't remember to be honest. But we already assume that we can access
struct device of a devlink instance without holding the instance lock.
Because the relationship between devlink objects is usually fairly
straightforward and non-cyclical.
Isn't the "rel infrastructure"... well.. over-designed?
The user creates a port on an instance A, which spawns instance B.
Instance A links instance B to itself.
Instance A cannot disappear before instance B disappears.
Also instance A is what controls the destruction of instance B
so it can unlink it.
We can tell lockdep how the locks nest, too.
> >Overall I feel like recording the references on the objects will be
> >an endless source of locking pain. Would it be insane if we held
> >the relationships as independent objects? Not as attributes of either
> >side?
>
> How exactly do you envision this? rel struct would hold the bus/name
> strings direcly?
No exactly, if we want bi-directional relationships we can create
the link struct as a:
rel {
u32 rel_id;
struct devlink *instanceA, *instanceB; // hold reference
struct list_head rel_listA, rel_listB; // under instance locks
u32 state;
struct list_head ntf_process_queue;
}
Operations on relationship can take the instance locks (sequentially).
Notifications from a workqueue.
Instance dumps would only report rel IDs, but the get the "members" of
the relationship user needs to issue a separate DL command / syscall.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-06 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-03 7:43 [patch net-next] devlink: don't take instance lock for nested handle put Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 1:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-06 7:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 14:48 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-10-06 17:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-06 22:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-07 10:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 15:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-09 15:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 16:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-10 7:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-10 14:52 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-10 15:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-10 18:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-11 13:34 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-12 0:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-12 6:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-13 15:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-13 17:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-13 20:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-15 11:12 ` Jiri Pirko
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