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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: takeru hayasaka <hayatake396@gmail.com>
Cc: Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	osmocom-net-gprs@lists.osmocom.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] ethtool: ice: Support for RSS settings to GTP from ethtool
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:37:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231018103703.41fd4d9b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADFiAc+OnpyNTXntZBkDAf+UfueRotqqWKg+BrApWcL=x_8vjQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:53:02 +0900 takeru hayasaka wrote:
> For instance, there are PGWs that have the capability to separate the
> termination of communication of 4G LTE users into Control and User
> planes (C/U).
> This is quite convenient from a scalability perspective. In fact, in
> 5G UPF, the communication is explicitly only on the User plane
> (Uplane).
> 
> Therefore, services are expected to receive only GTPU traffic (e.g.,
> PGW-U, UPF) or only GTPC traffic (e.g., PGW-C). Hence, there arises a
> necessity to use only GTPU.
> 
> If we do not distinguish packets into Control/User (C/U) with options
> like gtp4|6, I can conceive scenarios where performance tuning becomes
> challenging.
> For example, in cases where we want to process only the control
> communication (GTPC) using Flow Director on specific CPUs, while
> processing GTPU on the remaining cores.
> In scenarios like IoT, where user communication is minimal but the
> volume of devices is vast, the control traffic could substantially
> increase. Thus, this might also be possible in reverse.
> In short, this pertains to being mindful of CPU core affinity.
> 
> If we were to propose again, setting aside considerations specific to
> Intel, I believe, considering the users of ethtool, the smallest units
> should be gtpu4|6 and gtpc4|6.
> Regarding Extension Headers and such, I think it would be more
> straightforward to handle them implicitly.
> 
> What does everyone else think?

Harald went further and questioned use of the same IP addresses for 
-U and -C traffic, but even within one endpoint aren't these running
on a different port? Can someone reasonably use the same UDP port
for both types of traffic?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-12  6:01 [PATCH net-next v2] ethtool: ice: Support for RSS settings to GTP from ethtool Takeru Hayasaka
2023-10-16  9:27 ` Simon Horman
2023-10-16 22:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17  6:11   ` Harald Welte
2023-10-17  6:44     ` Harald Welte
2023-10-17 14:18   ` takeru hayasaka
2023-10-17 14:37     ` takeru hayasaka
2023-10-17 16:49       ` takeru hayasaka
2023-10-18  8:25         ` Harald Welte
2023-10-18 16:20           ` takeru hayasaka
2023-10-17 23:49       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-18  1:53         ` takeru hayasaka
2023-10-18  8:12           ` Harald Welte
2023-10-18 17:40             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-18 17:37           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-10-18 17:57             ` Harald Welte

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