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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, almasrymina@google.com, hawk@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/15] net: page_pool: add netlink-based introspection
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 08:14:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231109081412.161ce68f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC_iWjKi0V6wUmutmpjYyjZGkwXef4bxQwcx6o5rytT+-Pj5Eg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 10:11:47 +0200 Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
> > We immediately run into page pool leaks both real and false positive
> > warnings. As Eric pointed out/predicted there's no guarantee that
> > applications will read / close their sockets so a page pool page
> > may be stuck in a socket (but not leaked) forever. This happens
> > a lot in our fleet. Most of these are obviously due to application
> > bugs but we should not be printing kernel warnings due to minor
> > application resource leaks.  
> 
> Fair enough, I guess you mean 'continuous warnings'?

Yes, in this case but I'm making a general statement.
Or do you mean that there's a typo / grammar issue?

> > Conversely the page pool memory may get leaked at runtime, and
> > we have no way to detect / track that, unless someone reconfigures
> > the NIC and destroys the page pools which leaked the pages.
> >
> > The solution presented here is to expose the memory use of page
> > pools via netlink. This allows for continuous monitoring of memory
> > used by page pools, regardless if they were destroyed or not.
> > Sample in patch 15 can print the memory use and recycling
> > efficiency:
> >
> > $ ./page-pool
> >     eth0[2]     page pools: 10 (zombies: 0)
> >                 refs: 41984 bytes: 171966464 (refs: 0 bytes: 0)
> >                 recycling: 90.3% (alloc: 656:397681 recycle: 89652:270201)
> 
> That's reasonable, and the recycling rate is pretty impressive. 

This is just from a test machine, fresh boot, maybe a short iperf run,
I don't remember now :) In any case not real workload.

> Any idea how that translated to enhancements overall? mem/cpu pressure etc

I haven't collected much prod data at this stage, I'm hoping to add
this to the internal kernel and then do a more thorough investigation.

      reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24 16:02 [PATCH net-next 00/15] net: page_pool: add netlink-based introspection Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] net: page_pool: split the page_pool_params into fast and slow Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09  8:13   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] net: page_pool: avoid touching slow on the fastpath Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09  9:00   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] net: page_pool: factor out uninit Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-25 18:33   ` Mina Almasry
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] net: page_pool: id the page pools Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-25 18:49   ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09  9:21   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-11-09 16:22     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09 16:48       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] net: page_pool: record pools per netdev Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 17:31   ` David Ahern
2023-10-24 17:49     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 19:19       ` David Ahern
2023-10-24 19:45         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-25 19:56   ` Mina Almasry
2023-10-25 20:17     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09  3:28       ` Mina Almasry
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] net: page_pool: stash the NAPI ID for easier access Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] eth: link netdev to page_pools in drivers Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09  9:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-11-09 16:26     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09 16:51       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] net: page_pool: add nlspec for basic access to page pools Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] net: page_pool: implement GET in the netlink API Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-25 10:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-25 22:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] net: page_pool: add netlink notifications for state changes Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] net: page_pool: report amount of memory held by page pools Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] net: page_pool: report when page pool was destroyed Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09 17:05   ` Dragos Tatulea
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] net: page_pool: expose page pool stats via netlink Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-25 13:50   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] net: page_pool: mute the periodic warning for visible page pools Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-24 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] tools: ynl: add sample for getting page-pool information Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09  8:11 ` [PATCH net-next 00/15] net: page_pool: add netlink-based introspection Ilias Apalodimas
2023-11-09 16:14   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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