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From: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Marc Muehlfeld <mmuehlfe@redhat.com>,
	Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Subject: [PATCH net-next 09/10] docs: bridge: add netfilter doc
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:31:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231117093145.1563511-10-liuhangbin@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231117093145.1563511-1-liuhangbin@gmail.com>

Add netfilter part for bridge document.

Signed-off-by: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/networking/bridge.rst | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/networking/bridge.rst b/Documentation/networking/bridge.rst
index f42c19e59268..772bbe28aefe 100644
--- a/Documentation/networking/bridge.rst
+++ b/Documentation/networking/bridge.rst
@@ -238,6 +238,42 @@ kernel.
 
 Please see the :ref:`switchdev` document for more details.
 
+Netfilter
+=========
+
+The bridge netfilter module is a legacy feature that allows to filter bridged
+packets with iptables and ip6tables. Its use is discouraged. Users should
+consider using nftables for packet filtering.
+
+The older ebtables tool is more feature-limited compared to nftables, but
+just like nftables it doesn't need this module either to function.
+
+The br_netfilter module intercepts packets entering the bridge, performs
+minimal sanity tests on ipv4 and ipv6 packets and then pretends that
+these packets are being routed, not bridged. br_netfilter then calls
+the ip and ipv6 netfilter hooks from the bridge layer, i.e. ip(6)tables
+rulesets will also see these packets.
+
+br_netfilter is also the reason for the iptables *physdev* match:
+This match is the only way to reliably tell routed and bridged packets
+apart in an iptables ruleset.
+
+Note that ebtables and nftables will work fine without the br_netfilter module.
+iptables/ip6tables/arptables do not work for bridged traffic because they
+plug in the routing stack. nftables rules in ip/ip6/inet/arp families won't
+see traffic that is forwarded by a bridge either, but that's very much how it
+should be.
+
+Historically the feature set of ebtables was very limited (it still is),
+this module was added to pretend packets are routed and invoke the ipv4/ipv6
+netfilter hooks from the bridge so users had access to the more feature-rich
+iptables matching capabilities (including conntrack). nftables doesn't have
+this limitation, pretty much all features work regardless of the protocol family.
+
+So, br_netfilter is only needed if users, for some reason, need to use
+ip(6)tables to filter packets forwarded by the bridge, or NAT bridged
+traffic. For pure link layer filtering, this module isn't needed.
+
 FAQ
 ===
 
-- 
2.41.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-17  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-17  9:31 [PATCH net-next 00/10] Doc: update bridge doc Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 01/10] net: bridge: add document for IFLA_BR enum Hangbin Liu
2023-11-18 17:45   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-21  3:28     ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-21 16:21       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-23 14:07         ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-19 16:46   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-19 18:21     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-11-21  3:10       ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-21  3:06     ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: bridge: add document for IFLA_BRPORT enum Hangbin Liu
2023-11-20 11:31   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-21  3:10     ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 03/10] net: bridge: add document for bridge sysfs attribute Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 04/10] docs: bridge: Add kAPI/uAPI fields Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 05/10] docs: bridge: add STP doc Hangbin Liu
2023-11-20 11:39   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-21  3:02     ` Hangbin Liu
2023-11-24 13:18       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2023-11-24 14:01         ` Hangbin Liu
2023-12-03 20:12       ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 06/10] docs: bridge: add VLAN doc Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 07/10] docs: bridge: add multicast doc Hangbin Liu
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 08/10] docs: bridge: add switchdev doc Hangbin Liu
2023-11-20 11:56   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-17  9:31 ` Hangbin Liu [this message]
2023-11-17  9:31 ` [PATCH net-next 10/10] docs: bridge: add other features Hangbin Liu

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