From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
"Florian Fainelli" <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
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"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:37:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231120133737.70dde657@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231120211759.j5uvijsrgt2jqtwx@skbuf>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:17:59 +0200 Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Forget the concept of an active hwtstamp provider, just open up the
> knobs of _all_ possible hwtstamp providers for a NIC. Simultaneously!
> To make one active and all the others inactive, just use
> HWTSTAMP_FILTER_NONE/HWTSTAMP_TX_OFF for all except one, and the desired
> enum hwtstamp_rx_filters / enum hwtstamp_tx_types for the active one.
> Live with this expanded configuration model for a while, just restricted
> for a single active timestamping layer, and then, once user space is
> ready for an enhanced struct scm_timestamping which supports potentially
> multiple cmsgs with distinct hwtstamps, remove the restriction and let
> it all rip! Everybody gets their pony!
>
> Additionally, SIOCSHWTSTAMP is kinda rusty, has a fixed binary format,
> and is not extensible to target a specific hwtstamp provider. So a
> netlink conversion of that, as a first step, would of course be great.
>
> Is it an accurate summary?
Yes.
For now we can impose the requirement that only one can be active
easily at the kernel level. But the uAPI should allow expressing more.
> You've partially answered above. The mix of timestamps coming from the
> PHY/MAC and those coming from the DMA is unrepresentable in today's
> UAPI, and is just fine-tuned to work for the existing use case of "PTP
> gets PHY/MAC, everything else gets DMA".
>
> Still not 100% clear what would the proper UAPI (separate user-controllable
> RX filters for PHY, MAC and DMA) gain, in addition to what exists in mlx5.
Too late for mlx5 but I'm anticipating that more vendors will start
needing such configuration in the future. At which point it will be
good to have an API in place.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-20 21:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-14 11:28 [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 01/16] net: Convert PHYs hwtstamp callback to use kernel_hwtstamp_config Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 02/16] net: phy: Remove the call to phy_mii_ioctl in phy_hwstamp_get/set Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/16] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 04/16] net: macb: Convert to ndo_hwtstamp_get() and ndo_hwtstamp_set() Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 05/16] net: Make dev_set_hwtstamp_phylib accessible Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/16] net: phy: micrel: fix ts_info value in case of no phc Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 07/16] net_tstamp: Add TIMESTAMPING SOFTWARE and HARDWARE mask Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 15:52 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-19 2:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:05 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 16:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 08/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to expose current time stamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:40 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 09/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink command to get current timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 10/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to list available time stamping layers Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 11/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink " Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 12/16] net: Replace hwtstamp_source by timestamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 13/16] net: Change the API of PHY default timestamp to MAC Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 14/16] net: ethtool: ts: Update GET_TS to reply the current selected timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 11:14 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 12:06 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 13:49 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 14:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 14:53 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:10 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 17:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 17:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 18:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-11-20 18:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-29 20:09 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 20:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-29 22:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 23:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-30 0:06 ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-11-20 19:09 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-11-20 19:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 21:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:37 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-11-20 22:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-21 17:31 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-21 17:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 13:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 14:08 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:19 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 16:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 17:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 18:11 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-24 17:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 19:45 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-25 19:41 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-22 14:57 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 16:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:55 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 18:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-23 15:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-23 17:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-24 15:43 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 17:34 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-24 19:57 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 20:47 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-21 23:40 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 16/16] netlink: specs: Introduce time stamping set command Kory Maincent
2023-11-18 15:10 ` [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-11-19 2:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
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