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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3] net: ethtool: do runtime PM outside RTNL
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 08:44:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231206084448.53b48c49@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231206113934.8d7819857574.I2deb5804ef1739a2af307283d320ef7d82456494@changeid>

On Wed,  6 Dec 2023 11:39:32 +0100 Johannes Berg wrote:
> As reported by Marc MERLIN, at least one driver (igc) wants or
> needs to acquire the RTNL inside suspend/resume ops, which can
> be called from here in ethtool if runtime PM is enabled.
> 
> Allow this by doing runtime PM transitions without the RTNL
> held. For the ioctl to have the same operations order, this
> required reworking the code to separately check validity and
> do the operation. For the netlink code, this now has to do
> the runtime_pm_put a bit later.

I was really, really hoping that this would serve as a motivation
for Intel to sort out the igb/igc implementation. The flow AFAICT
is ndo_open() starts the NIC, the calls pm_sus, which shuts the NIC
back down immediately (!?) then it schedules a link check from a work
queue, which opens it again (!?). It's a source of never ending bugs.

nit: please don't repost within 24h on netdev:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/next/process/maintainer-netdev.html#tl-dr

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 10:39 [PATCH net v3] net: ethtool: do runtime PM outside RTNL Johannes Berg
2023-12-06 16:44 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-12-06 16:46   ` Johannes Berg
2023-12-06 21:39     ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-07 10:16     ` Przemek Kitszel
2023-12-07 17:40       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11  4:52         ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-15 13:42           ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-15 17:46             ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-24 16:30               ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-24 23:12                 ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-25  8:03                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Sasha Neftin
2023-12-25 11:21                     ` Marc MERLIN
2024-01-03 10:30   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-03 11:24     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-03 12:15       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-03 23:34     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-04  8:25       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-04  9:05         ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-04 16:16           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-05 11:53             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-05 15:30               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-05 16:29                 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-06  3:02                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 11:18                     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-05 10:34           ` Stanislaw Gruszka

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