From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/35] bitops: add atomic find_bit() operations
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 10:10:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207091023.kioii5mgmnphrvl4@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXAFM2VZugdhM3oE@yury-ThinkPad>
On Tue 05-12-23 21:22:59, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 07:51:01PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > This series is a result of discussion [1]. All find_bit() functions imply
> > > exclusive access to the bitmaps. However, KCSAN reports quite a number
> > > of warnings related to find_bit() API. Some of them are not pointing
> > > to real bugs because in many situations people intentionally allow
> > > concurrent bitmap operations.
> > >
> > > If so, find_bit() can be annotated such that KCSAN will ignore it:
> > >
> > > bit = data_race(find_first_bit(bitmap, nbits));
> >
> > No, this is not a correct thing to do. If concurrent bitmap changes can
> > happen, find_first_bit() as it is currently implemented isn't ever a safe
> > choice because it can call __ffs(0) which is dangerous as you properly note
> > above. I proposed adding READ_ONCE() into find_first_bit() / find_next_bit()
> > implementation to fix this issue but you disliked that. So other option we
> > have is adding find_first_bit() and find_next_bit() variants that take
> > volatile 'addr' and we have to use these in code like xas_find_chunk()
> > which cannot be converted to your new helpers.
>
> Here is some examples when concurrent operations with plain find_bit()
> are acceptable:
>
> - two threads running find_*_bit(): safe wrt ffs(0) and returns correct
> value, because underlying bitmap is unchanged;
> - find_next_bit() in parallel with set or clear_bit(), when modifying
> a bit prior to the start bit to search: safe and correct;
> - find_first_bit() in parallel with set_bit(): safe, but may return wrong
> bit number;
> - find_first_zero_bit() in parallel with clear_bit(): same as above.
>
> In last 2 cases find_bit() may not return a correct bit number, but
> it may be OK if caller requires any (not exactly first) set or clear
> bit, correspondingly.
>
> In such cases, KCSAN may be safely silenced.
True - but these are special cases. In particular the case in xas_find_chunk()
is not any of these special cases. It is using find_next_bit() which is can
be racing with clear_bit(). So what are your plans for such usecase?
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-07 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-03 19:23 [PATCH v2 00/35] bitops: add atomic find_bit() operations Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/35] lib/find: add atomic find_bit() primitives Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 02/35] lib/find: add test for atomic find_bit() ops Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 21/35] sfc: switch to using atomic find_bit() API where appropriate Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 26/35] mISDN: optimize get_free_devid() Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:33 ` [PATCH v2 28/35] ethernet: rocker: optimize ofdpa_port_internal_vlan_id_get() Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:33 ` [PATCH v2 30/35] bluetooth: optimize cmtp_alloc_block_id() Yury Norov
2023-12-03 19:33 ` [PATCH v2 31/35] net: smc: use find_and_set_bit() in smc_wr_tx_get_free_slot_index() Yury Norov
2023-12-04 9:40 ` Alexandra Winter
2023-12-11 22:34 ` Yury Norov
2023-12-04 13:07 ` [PATCH v2 00/35] bitops: add atomic find_bit() operations Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-04 18:51 ` Jan Kara
2023-12-06 5:22 ` Yury Norov
2023-12-07 9:10 ` Jan Kara [this message]
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