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From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: phy: skip LED triggers on PHYs on SFP modules
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 18:12:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231213181241.6a5e8afd@device-28.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXnNYJer0JrJxOsl@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi Andrew, Russell,

On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 15:27:28 +0000
"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:08:25AM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 03:35:12PM +0100, Maxime Chevallier wrote:  
> > > Hi Daniel
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 00:05:35 +0000
> > > Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Calling led_trigger_register() when attaching a PHY located on an SFP
> > > > module potentially (and practically) leads into a deadlock.
> > > > Fix this by not calling led_trigger_register() for PHYs localted on SFP
> > > > modules as such modules actually never got any LEDs.  
> > > 
> > > While I don't have a fix for this issue, I think your justification
> > > isn't good. This isn't about having LEDs on the module or not, but
> > > rather the PHY triggering LED events for LEDS that can be located
> > > somewhere else on the system (like the front pannel of a switch).  
> > 
> > SFP LEDs are very unlikely to be on the front panel, since there is no
> > such pins on the SFP cage.
> > 
> > Russell, in your collection of SFPs do you have any with LEDs?  
> 
> No, and we should _not_ mess around with the "LED" configuration on
> PHYs on SFPs. It's possible that the LED output is wired to the LOS
> pin on the module, and messing around with the configuration of that
> would be asking for trouble.
> 
> In any case, I thought we didn't drive the LED configuration on PHYs
> where the LED configuration isn't described by firmware - and as the
> PHY on SFP modules would never be described by firmware, hooking
> such a PHY up to the LED framework sounds like a waste of resources
> to me.
> 

So it looks to me that the Daniel's patch does make sense then, even
without considering the underlying locking issue ?

Sorry for my misunderstanding of the LED driving that started this
discussion :/

Maxime

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-13 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12  0:05 [PATCH net] net: phy: skip LED triggers on PHYs on SFP modules Daniel Golle
2023-12-12 14:35 ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-12-13  9:08   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-13 10:06     ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-12-13 10:47       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-13 15:35         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-13 15:27     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-13 17:12       ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2023-12-13 19:01       ` Daniel Golle
2023-12-13 20:23         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-14  9:48         ` Paolo Abeni
2023-12-14 16:52           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-15  9:46             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-15  9:59               ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-12-15 15:39                 ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-12-15  2:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-15  2:54   ` Daniel Golle
2023-12-15  9:53   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-15 16:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-16  2:00 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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