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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Eli Schwartz <eschwartz93@gmail.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2 1/2] configure: avoid un-recommended command substitution form
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:36:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231229113632.45c70893@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac91d9f3-0651-4c66-9d38-c40281150ac5@gmail.com>

On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 22:57:10 -0500
Eli Schwartz <eschwartz93@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/27/23 7:46 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:30:52 -0500
> > Eli Schwartz <eschwartz93@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> The use of backticks to surround commands instead of "$(cmd)" is a
> >> legacy of the oldest pre-POSIX shells. It is confusing, unreliable, and
> >> hard to read. Its use is not recommended in new programs.
> >>
> >> See: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082
> >> ---  
> > 
> > This is needless churn, it works now, and bash is never going
> > to drop the syntax.  
> 
> 
> Per the patch message, the reason to avoid the syntax is because it is
> confusing, unreliable, and hard to read.
> 
> It was deprecated for good reason, and those reasons are relevant to
> people writing shell scripts! Regardless of whether it is removed, it
> has several very sharp edges and the modern alternative was designed
> specifically because the legacy syntax is bad to use *even in bash*.
> 
> (bash has nothing to do with it. But also, again, this is not about bash
> because the configure script shebang is *not* /bin/bash.)

The existing configuration was built incrementally over time.
Mostly as a reaction to the issues with autoconf.

Perhaps it is time to consider updating iproute2 to a modern build
environment like meson that has better config support.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-29 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-18  3:30 [PATCH iproute2 1/2] configure: avoid un-recommended command substitution form Eli Schwartz
2023-12-18  3:30 ` [PATCH iproute2 2/2] configure: use the portable printf to suppress newlines in messages Eli Schwartz
2023-12-28  0:46   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-12-28  3:53     ` Eli Schwartz
2023-12-29  6:00     ` [PATCH 1/2] configure: avoid un-recommended command substitution form Eli Schwartz
2023-12-29  6:00       ` [PATCH 2/2] configure: use the portable printf to suppress newlines in messages Eli Schwartz
2024-01-01 19:03         ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-12-28  0:46 ` [PATCH iproute2 1/2] configure: avoid un-recommended command substitution form Stephen Hemminger
2023-12-28  3:57   ` Eli Schwartz
2023-12-29 19:36     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-12-30  0:42       ` David Ahern

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