From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nelson, Shannon" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Armen Ratner <armeng@nvidia.com>,
Daniel Jurgens <danielj@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:04:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240117180456.385430b2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZaeDuDSVFs46JffL@x130>
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 23:37:28 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 08 Jan 18:58, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:22:12 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> >> This is embedded core switchdev setup, there is no PF representor, only
> >> uplink and VF/SF representors, the term management PF is only FW
> >> terminology, since uplink traffic is controlled by the admin, and uplink
> >> interface represents what goes in/out the wire, the current FW architecture
> >> demands that BMC/NCSI traffic goes through a separate PF that is not the
> >> uplink since the uplink rules are managed purely by the eswitch admin.
> >
> >"Normal way" to talk to the BMC is to send the traffic to the uplink
> >and let the NC-SI filter "steal" the frames. There's not need for host
> >PF (which I think is what you're referring to when you say there's
> >no PF representor).
> >
> >Can you rephrase / draw a diagram? Perhaps I'm missing something.
> >When the host is managing the eswitch for mlx5 AFAIU NC-SI frame
> >stealing works fine.. so I'm missing what's different with the EC.
>
> AFAIK it is not implemented via "stealing" from esw, esw is completely
> managed by driver, FW has no access to it, the management PF completely
> bypasses eswitch to talk to BMC in ConnectX arch.
>
>
> ┌─────────────┐ ┌─────────────┐
> │ │ │ │
> │ │ │ ┌┼────────────┐
> │ ┌───────┼────────────┼────────────┼│ mgmt PF │
> │ BMC│ │ NC-SI │ ConnectX └┼────────────┘
> │ │ │◄──────────►│ │
> │ │ │ ^ │ NIC │
> │ │ │ | │ ┌┼────────────┐
> │ │ │ | │ ┌─────┼│ PF │
> │ │ │ | │ │ └┼────────────┘
> │ │ │ | │ │ │
> └─────▼───────┘ | └──────▼──────┘
> │phy / │ phy
> │ / │
> ▼ / ▼
> Management / Network
> Network /
/
/
What are the two lines here?
Are there really two connections / a separate MAC that's
not the NC-SI one?
Or is rhe BMC is configured to bridge / forward between NC-SI
and the port?
Or the pass-thru packets are somehow encapsulated over the NC-SI MAC?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-18 2:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-21 0:57 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Use the correct lag ports number when creating TISes Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-29 22:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Fix query of sd_group field Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: SD, Introduce SD lib Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement basic query and instantiation Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25 7:34 ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29 9:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement devcom communication and primary election Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement steering for primary and secondaries Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5: SD, Add informative prints in kernel log Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25 7:42 ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29 9:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: Create single netdev per SD group Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-08 13:36 ` Aishwarya TCV
2024-01-08 13:50 ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-08 15:54 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-08 16:00 ` Gal Pressman
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: Create EN core HW resources for all secondary devices Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: Let channels be SD-aware Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 12:30 ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09 3:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-09 14:15 ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09 16:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-10 14:09 ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-25 8:01 ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-26 2:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Support cross-vhca RSS Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5e: Support per-mdev queue counter Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Block TLS device offload on combined SD netdev Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5: Enable SD feature Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 0:57 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21 2:45 ` Nelson, Shannon
2023-12-21 22:25 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:22 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-09 2:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-17 7:37 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-18 2:04 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-01-04 22:47 ` [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 1:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:14 ` Saeed Mahameed
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