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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nelson, Shannon" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Armen Ratner <armeng@nvidia.com>,
	Daniel Jurgens <danielj@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:04:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240117180456.385430b2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZaeDuDSVFs46JffL@x130>

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 23:37:28 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 08 Jan 18:58, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:22:12 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:  
> >> This is embedded core switchdev setup, there is no PF representor, only
> >> uplink and VF/SF representors, the term management PF is only FW
> >> terminology, since uplink traffic is controlled by the admin, and uplink
> >> interface represents what goes in/out the wire, the current FW architecture
> >> demands that BMC/NCSI traffic goes through a separate PF that is not the
> >> uplink since the uplink rules are managed purely by the eswitch admin.  
> >
> >"Normal way" to talk to the BMC is to send the traffic to the uplink
> >and let the NC-SI filter "steal" the frames. There's not need for host
> >PF (which I think is what you're referring to when you say there's
> >no PF representor).
> >
> >Can you rephrase / draw a diagram? Perhaps I'm missing something.
> >When the host is managing the eswitch for mlx5 AFAIU NC-SI frame
> >stealing works fine.. so I'm missing what's different with the EC.  
> 
> AFAIK it is not implemented via "stealing" from esw, esw is completely
> managed by driver, FW has no access to it, the management PF completely
> bypasses eswitch to talk to BMC in ConnectX arch.
> 
> 
>     ┌─────────────┐            ┌─────────────┐
>     │             │            │             │
>     │             │            │            ┌┼────────────┐
>     │     ┌───────┼────────────┼────────────┼│ mgmt PF    │
>     │  BMC│       │ NC-SI      │   ConnectX └┼────────────┘
>     │     │       │◄──────────►│             │
>     │     │       │      ^     │     NIC     │
>     │     │       │      |     │            ┌┼────────────┐
>     │     │       │      |     │      ┌─────┼│ PF         │
>     │     │       │      |     │      │     └┼────────────┘
>     │     │       │      |     │      │      │
>     └─────▼───────┘      |     └──────▼──────┘
>           │phy           /            │ phy
>           │             /             │
>           ▼            /              ▼
>       Management      /              Network
>         Network      /
                      /
                     /
What are the two lines here?

Are there really two connections / a separate MAC that's
not the NC-SI one?

Or is rhe BMC is configured to bridge / forward between NC-SI 
and the port?

Or the pass-thru packets are somehow encapsulated over the NC-SI MAC?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-18  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-21  0:57 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Use the correct lag ports number when creating TISes Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-29 22:40   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Fix query of sd_group field Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: SD, Introduce SD lib Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement basic query and instantiation Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:15   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25  7:34     ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29  9:21       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement devcom communication and primary election Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement steering for primary and secondaries Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5: SD, Add informative prints in kernel log Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:12   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25  7:42     ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29  9:20       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: Create single netdev per SD group Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-08 13:36   ` Aishwarya TCV
2024-01-08 13:50     ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-08 15:54       ` Mark Brown
2024-01-08 16:00         ` Gal Pressman
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: Create EN core HW resources for all secondary devices Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: Let channels be SD-aware Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 12:30     ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09  3:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-09 14:15         ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09 16:00           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-10 14:09             ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-25  8:01               ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-26  2:40                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Support cross-vhca RSS Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5e: Support per-mdev queue counter Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Block TLS device offload on combined SD netdev Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5: Enable SD feature Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  2:45   ` Nelson, Shannon
2023-12-21 22:25     ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:44       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:22         ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-09  2:58           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-17  7:37             ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-18  2:04               ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-01-04 22:47 ` [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08  1:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:14     ` Saeed Mahameed

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