From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8DBE84FB4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 18:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1707332108; cv=none; b=rKmVm+dzhes7wpGv33gzlACEa+7MQ7Mklvu4d4bthb3tk8X0D4ZcbrC01nj/hC6MvROvKBbI0tlGL+7WqGfpxM358Fml4fXwFQTb2bCPaW16aBE1mGM96Jmnkrsz/vWjv0a1hH47aEubrPYxCmPM/EnvF3Ekbhk449i6nfIzxS4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1707332108; c=relaxed/simple; bh=cvMmNrsAsXCkSpN8/+Wf2PKLZZ8wrOKhw+G9M/OVfVY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MEz4bNKrMH2fsjRVNPPr7S2rRMT5z/CZPyfSFsFIQ9Ghb9sAi55VJbfcp+x7kgMv5iGgSyzEvl0dsQxJydvqFCdDIisPI3DOTnGOKzvqApUZWOC+LbWO8C3Do+hbgV9XVw/bpaznBtRwo5d7LbTWGu34UfXkcbK/3CfMQndYzNI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Ga+Qv0/Y; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Ga+Qv0/Y" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25CC7C433F1; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 18:55:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1707332108; bh=cvMmNrsAsXCkSpN8/+Wf2PKLZZ8wrOKhw+G9M/OVfVY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Ga+Qv0/YSfWfUX6ntazfXsSUWFVbJo9aVeB3J4CJndAWCpU0LbG1aHJFP+lmFLX1D Q83pYbKwzf5HUokQeQ9/Q1Va4PTpz3YpI9s3up2W/+XLhvxw+0uDyBz6s9cd6tzXqk fzz+CzQPkAeZtzp8KA256V7/j1VXKk23F42Qu4v+0hQu/TqZFVRW8zh//5uq83Ja47 moh14U0Ls9+n92wggIa4FsFzQZ+qdCFHjBIcEPrgjID3V//93LMWOaF13HTaLNgkIj B3xATYVZqp9FXTdBxun1jSFBKbuOTwcKdPjm8lYkJLVu2hDpCiGzZRaB5/m6PFpM3c omoDX4IhK21RA== Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 10:55:07 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: David Ahern Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [TEST] The no-kvm CI instances going away Message-ID: <20240207105507.3761b12e@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20240205174136.6056d596@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 10:45:26 -0700 David Ahern wrote: > On 2/5/24 6:41 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > because cloud computing is expensive I'm shutting down the instances > > which were running without KVM support. We're left with the KVM-enabled > > instances only (metal) - one normal and one with debug configs enabled. > > who is covering the cost of the cloud VMs? Meta > Have you considered cheaper alternatives to AWS? If I'm completely honest it's more a time thing than cost thing. I have set a budget for the project in internal tooling to 3x what I expected just the build bot to consume, so it can fit one large instance without me having to jump thru any hoops. I will slowly jump thru hoops to get more as time allows, but I figured the VM instance was a mistake in the first place, so I can as well just kill it off already. The -dbg runners are also slow. Or do you see benefit to running without KVM? Another potential extension is running on ARM. And yes, it was much cheaper when the builder run in Digital Ocean. But why do you ask? :) Just to offer cheaper alternatives or do you happen to have the ability to get a check written to support the effort? :)