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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	bodong@nvidia.com, jiri@nvidia.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	saeedm@nvidia.com,
	"aleksander.lobakin@intel.com" <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 net-next] Documentation: devlink: Add devlink-sd
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 17:58:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240215175836.7d1a19e6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zc4Pa4QWGQegN4mI@nanopsycho>

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:19:40 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >Maybe the first thing to iron out is the life cycle. Right now we
> >throw all configuration requests at the driver which ends really badly
> >for those of us who deal with heterogeneous environments. Applications
> >which try to do advanced stuff like pinning and XDP break because of
> >all the behavior differences between drivers. So I don't think we
> >should expose configuration of unstable objects (those which user
> >doesn't create explicitly - queues, irqs, page pools etc) to the driver.
> >The driver should get or read the config from the core when the object
> >is created.  
> 
> I see. But again, for global objects, I understand. But this is
> device-specific object and configuration. How do you tie it up together?

We disagree how things should be modeled, sort of in principle.
I think it dates all the way back to your work on altnames.
We had the same conversation on DPLL :(

I prefer to give objects unique IDs and a bunch of optional identifying
attributes, rather than trying to build some well organized hierarchy.
The hierarchy often becomes an unnecessary constraint.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-16  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25  4:56 [RFC PATCH v2 net-next] Documentation: devlink: Add devlink-sd William Tu
2024-01-25 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 " William Tu
2024-01-25 22:36 ` William Tu
2024-01-29 10:56   ` Simon Horman
2024-01-29 22:23     ` William Tu
2024-01-31  1:07   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 18:47     ` William Tu
2024-01-31 19:06       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 19:16         ` William Tu
2024-01-31 20:45           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 21:37             ` William Tu
2024-01-31 21:41               ` Jacob Keller
2024-01-31 22:30                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 23:02                   ` William Tu
2024-01-31 23:17                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-01  2:23                       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-01 14:00                         ` William Tu
2024-02-02  8:48                           ` Michal Swiatkowski
2024-02-02 15:27                             ` William Tu
2024-02-01 10:13                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-02  4:00                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02  7:46                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-09  1:26                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-15 13:19                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-15 17:41                                 ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-16  2:07                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16  8:15                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 21:42                                     ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-16 21:47                                     ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-19  8:59                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16  8:10                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 21:44                                     ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-16  1:58                                 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-02-16  8:06                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-17  2:43                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-19  9:06                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-20 22:17                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-01 19:16                       ` William Tu
2024-02-02  3:30                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02  4:26                           ` William Tu

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