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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, amritha.nambiar@intel.com, danielj@nvidia.com,
	mst@redhat.com, michael.chan@broadcom.com,
	vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] netdev: add per-queue statistics
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:19:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240226141928.171b79fe@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zd0EJq3gS2_p9NQ8@google.com>

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:35:34 -0800 Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > +  -
> > +    name: stats-scope
> > +    type: flags
> > +    entries: [ queue ]  
> 
> IIUC, in order to get netdev-scoped stats in v1 (vs rfc) is to not set
> stats-scope, right? Any reason we dropped the explicit netdev entry?
> It seems more robust with a separate entry and removes the ambiguity about
> which stats we're querying.

The change is because I switched from enum to flags.

I'm not 100% sure which one is going to cause fewer issues down
the line. It's a question of whether the next scope we add will 
be disjoint with or subdividing previous scopes.

I think only subdividing previous scopes makes sense. If we were 
to add "stats per NAPI" (bad example) or "per buffer pool" or IDK what
other thing -- we should expose that as a new netlink command, not mix 
it with the queues.

The expectation is that scopes will be extended with hw vs sw, or
per-CPU (e.g. page pool recycling). In which case we'll want flags,
so that we can combine them -- ask for HW stats for a queue or hw
stats for the entire netdev.

Perhaps I should rename stats -> queue-stats to make this more explicit?

The initial version I wrote could iterate both over NAPIs and
queues. This could be helpful to some drivers - but I realized that it
would lead to rather painful user experience (does the driver maintain
stats per NAPI or per queue?) and tricky implementation of the device
level sum (device stats = Sum(queue) or Sum(queue) + Sum(NAPI)??)

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-26 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-26 21:10 [PATCH net-next 0/3] netdev: add per-queue statistics Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-26 21:10 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] " Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-26 21:35   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2024-02-26 22:19     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-02-27  3:37       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2024-02-27 15:24         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-27 18:09           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2024-02-27 19:49           ` Nambiar, Amritha
2024-02-27 10:29   ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-02-27 15:00     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-27 16:17       ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-02-27 23:01         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-26 21:10 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] netdev: add queue stat for alloc failures Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-26 21:10 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] eth: bnxt: support per-queue statistics Jakub Kicinski

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