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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	donald.hunter@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/4] doc/netlink: Add batch op definitions to netlink-raw schema
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:13:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240227091348.412a9424@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zfvlluhz.fsf@gmail.com>

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:52:40 +0000 Donald Hunter wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with nftables nl. Can you explain what the batch ops
> > are for and how they function?
> >
> > Begin / end makes it sound like some form of a transaction, is it?  
> 
> Yes, it's handled as a transaction, containing multiple messages wrapped
> in BATCH_BEGIN / BATCH_END in a single skb.
> 
> The transaction batching could be implemented without any schema changes
> by just adding multi-message capability to ynl. Then it would be the
> caller's responsibility to specify the right begin / end messages.

That's where I was going with my questions :)
Feels like we need to figure out a nice API at the library level
and/or CLI. That could be more generally useful if anyone wants
to save syscalls.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-27 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-25 17:46 [RFC net-next 0/4] tools/net/ynl: Add batch operations for nftables Donald Hunter
2024-02-25 17:46 ` [RFC net-next 1/4] doc/netlink: Add batch op definitions to netlink-raw schema Donald Hunter
2024-02-27 16:11   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-27 16:52     ` Donald Hunter
2024-02-27 17:13       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-02-27 17:36         ` Donald Hunter
2024-02-27 17:49           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-25 17:46 ` [RFC net-next 2/4] tools/net/ynl: Extract message encoding into _encode_message() Donald Hunter
2024-02-25 17:46 ` [RFC net-next 3/4] tools/net/ynl: Add batch message encoding for nftables Donald Hunter
2024-02-25 17:46 ` [RFC net-next 4/4] doc/netlink/specs: Add draft nftables spec Donald Hunter

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