From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5071415CD5D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1709142194; cv=none; b=h6B2ygZuH9ZoDK6E8dO9chx6QIAYGovKiac/VzWNRTPAHv+NhbqiGSpk+3V3DmBvbeuVWXo8vg8GS0ONU7O8uOfuM5ZfULWpKkSqOHNwB7IWer7E2eoRAJ9S9aBS4WuMyw6oFPRb8P/CLR6MxsM9Pw3Ba3GF2b37od7E+4aDGrA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1709142194; c=relaxed/simple; bh=2gLZSZdxUdSmTk3dyeHKxWAfWu/5ZI1JxwssXFWxCFI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y5yiRxxWHwyALE6y3NPv8aZo9V0JzWl3AvTzZ/o0Vb90624I4kPjcaTa0bz1qiluxg83312Mv4gcwwkeLaYLUWaRa6pI1CA+iMpszs+OfkTK02SGruvKDKj2KSxsP1NyaBhGayJgpOHgdf1Zrqlmj2X2Cggg3wCMNqGuPfbbHk4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=HRcuINA1; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="HRcuINA1" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 604F1C433C7; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:43:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1709142193; bh=2gLZSZdxUdSmTk3dyeHKxWAfWu/5ZI1JxwssXFWxCFI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=HRcuINA1P4t9mfpxTNmLqwkCSABiUnhLZYo+/5t3sK3DoZuuXTbzLzAqxeiMCpsBA A4c1B9JJvqo+q4DZF17f9exfjXfLLYtKzrzRhEiYC1O4m7cxwT6bkaAaw9DYWNfyZN Zga300PAAa5owNbnJA6S2NCCBOt2U0yjg4YLey0rXWN9IxZbnaiCs9ap2SfbWxG8Rv hsrO0++eh8F0xp1g1Rkf1QA8GfP33VHCk1lhxAlqY24UPaZSy26pdqyNs+GszTFVzx Sv38edTPIunGlU+WBw9trepBhR59uwHy4637scLwHj4fejr+MzQcj8glaM5o/d9uwa Nw+OF8gMr0EWg== Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:43:12 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Jiri Pirko Cc: "Samudrala, Sridhar" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Tariq Toukan , Saeed Mahameed , "David S. Miller" , Paolo Abeni , Eric Dumazet , Saeed Mahameed , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan , Gal Pressman , Leon Romanovsky , jay.vosburgh@canonical.com Subject: Re: [net-next V3 15/15] Documentation: networking: Add description for multi-pf netdev Message-ID: <20240228094312.75dde221@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20240228090604.66c17088@kernel.org> References: <20240215030814.451812-1-saeed@kernel.org> <20240215030814.451812-16-saeed@kernel.org> <20240215212353.3d6d17c4@kernel.org> <20240220173309.4abef5af@kernel.org> <2024022214-alkalize-magnetize-dbbc@gregkh> <20240222150030.68879f04@kernel.org> <20240227180619.7e908ac4@kernel.org> <20240228090604.66c17088@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:06:04 -0800 Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > >Yes, looks RDMA-centric. RDMA being infamously bonding-challenged. > > > > Not really. It's just needed to consider all usecases, not only netdev. > > All use cases or lowest common denominator, depends on priorities. To be clear, I'm not trying to shut down this proposal, I think both have disadvantages. This one is better for RDMA and iperf, the explicit netdevs are better for more advanced TCP apps. All I want is clear docs so users are not confused, and vendors don't diverge pointlessly.