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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:17:09 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>, "David S. Miller"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: create a dummy net_device allocator
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:01:55 +0300 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > Suggested-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>  
> 
> Exciting read for people who remember this conversation:
> """
> > I prefer to see some new wrapper over plain alloc_netdev, which will
> > create this dummy netdevice. For example, alloc_dummy_netdev(...).  
> 
> Nope, no bona fide APIs for hacky uses.
> """
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rdma/20240311112532.71f1cb35@kernel.org/

Still my preference, but there's only so many hours in the day
to keep explaining things. I'd rather we made some progress.