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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: pabeni@redhat.com, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:35:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240410103531.46437def@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhasUvIMdewdM3KI@nanopsycho>

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:12:18 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> For these kind of unused drivers, I think it would be legit to
> >> disallow any internal/external api changes. Just do that for some
> >> normal driver, then benefit from the changes in the unused driver.  
> >
> >Unused is a bit strong, and we didn't put netdevsim in a special
> >directory. Let's see if more such drivers appear and if there
> >are practical uses for the separation for scripts etc?  
> 
> The practical use I see that the reviewer would spot right away is
> someone pushes a feature implemented in this unused driver only.
> Say it would be a clear mark for a driver of lower category.
> For the person doing API change it would be an indication that he
> does not have that cautious to not to break anything in this driver.
> The driver maintainer should be the one to deal with potential issues.

Hm, we currently group by vendor but the fact it's a private device
is probably more important indeed. For example if Google submits
a driver for a private device it may be confusing what's public
cloud (which I think/hope GVE is) and what's fully private.

So we could categorize by the characteristic rather than vendor:

drivers/net/ethernet/${term}/fbnic/

I'm afraid it may be hard for us to agree on an accurate term, tho.
"Unused" sounds.. odd, we don't keep unused code, "private"
sounds like we granted someone special right not took some away,
maybe "exclusive"? Or "besteffort"? Or "staging" :D  IDK.

> With this clear marking and Documentation to describe it, I think I
> would be ok to let this in, FWIW.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 20:08 [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 01/15] PCI: Add Meta Platforms vendor ID Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:20   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 02/15] eth: fbnic: add scaffolding for Meta's NIC driver Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:33   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 20:47     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:17       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 21:51         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 22:20           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 23:27             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 03/15] eth: fbnic: Allocate core device specific structures and devlink interface Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:35   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 04/15] eth: fbnic: Add register init to set PCIe/Ethernet device config Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:46   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 20:31     ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 05/15] eth: fbnic: add message parsing for FW messages Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:07   ` Jeff Johnson
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 06/15] eth: fbnic: add FW communication mechanism Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 07/15] eth: fbnic: allocate a netdevice and napi vectors with queues Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:58   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 22:15     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 22:26       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 08/15] eth: fbnic: implement Tx queue alloc/start/stop/free Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 09/15] eth: fbnic: implement Rx " Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 11:42   ` kernel test robot
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 10/15] eth: fbnic: Add initial messaging to notify FW of our presence Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 11/15] eth: fbnic: Enable Ethernet link setup Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-05 21:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-21 23:21     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-22 15:52       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-22 18:59         ` Alexander H Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 12/15] eth: fbnic: add basic Tx handling Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 13/15] eth: fbnic: add basic Rx handling Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 11:47   ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-09 15:08     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 11:54       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-10 15:03         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-12  8:43           ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-12  9:47             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-12 15:05             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 13:19               ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-15 15:03                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 17:11                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 18:03                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 18:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 18:55                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 22:01                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 23:57                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16  0:24                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-16 13:25                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-16 14:35                               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16 14:05                       ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-16 14:46                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16 18:26                           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-17  8:14                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-17 16:09                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-17 10:39                           ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 14/15] eth: fbnic: add L2 address programming Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 15/15] eth: fbnic: write the TCAM tables used for RSS control and Rx to host Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:42 ` [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-04 11:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 14:45   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 15:24     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 15:37       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05  3:08         ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 15:36     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 18:35       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 19:05         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-04 19:22       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 20:25         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 21:59           ` John Fastabend
2024-04-04 23:50             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05  0:11               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05  2:38                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 15:41                   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08  6:18                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 15:26                       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 18:41                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 20:43                           ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 21:49                             ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-08 21:52                               ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09  8:18                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-09 14:43                               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 15:39                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:31                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 17:12                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 18:38                                       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 18:54                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 20:03                                           ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 23:11                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-10  9:37                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 19:15                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-05  7:11                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-04-05 12:26                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 13:06                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-05 14:24                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 15:17                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 18:38                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 19:02                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-06 16:05                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-06 16:49                               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-06 17:16                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 15:04                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-08 19:50                               ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 11:50                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 15:46                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 16:51                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 17:32                                 ` John Fastabend
2024-04-09 11:01                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:11                                     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-09 13:18                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 14:08                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:27                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:41                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 11:45                                         ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-10 12:12                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 21:36                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 10:56                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:05                                     ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 14:28                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 17:42                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 18:38                                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 18:16                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:53                       ` Edward Cree
2024-04-08 11:37                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 23:50             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 11:05             ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 10:54         ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-05 14:01 ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-06 16:53   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 20:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 21:06   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-04-10  7:26     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 21:30       ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-10 22:19         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11  0:31           ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-09 23:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 15:56     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 20:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 21:07         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 22:37           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 16:00             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11 17:32               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 23:12                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11  6:39           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:46             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10  7:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 12:50     ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-10 13:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 15:12       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 17:35         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-04-10 17:39           ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 17:56             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:00               ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 20:03                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:01               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 18:29                 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 19:58                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 22:03                     ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11  6:31                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:22                         ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11  6:34                 ` Jiri Pirko

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