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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 00/15] locking: Introduce nested-BH locking.
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 11:38:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240506093828.OLP2KzcG@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d2eca9e80ae644583248a9e4a4bdee94999a8f8.camel@redhat.com>

On 2024-05-06 10:43:49 [+0200], Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-05-03 at 20:25 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > Disabling bottoms halves acts as per-CPU BKL. On PREEMPT_RT code within
> > local_bh_disable() section remains preemtible. As a result high prior
> > tasks (or threaded interrupts) will be blocked by lower-prio task (or
> > threaded interrupts) which are long running which includes softirq
> > sections.
> > 
> > The proposed way out is to introduce explicit per-CPU locks for
> > resources which are protected by local_bh_disable() and use those only
> > on PREEMPT_RT so there is no additional overhead for !PREEMPT_RT builds.
> 
> Let me rephrase to check I understood the plan correctly.
> 
> The idea is to pair 'bare' local_bh_{disable,enable} with local lock
> and late make local_bh_{disable,enable} no ops (on RT).
> 
> With 'bare' I mean not followed by a spin_lock() - which is enough to
> ensure mutual exclusion vs BH on RT build - am I correct?

I might have I misunderstood your rephrase. But to make it clear:
| $ git grep -p local_lock\( kernel/softirq.c
| kernel/softirq.c=void __local_bh_disable_ip(unsigned long ip, unsigned int cnt)
| kernel/softirq.c:                       local_lock(&softirq_ctrl.lock);

this is what I want to remove. This is upstream RT only (not RT queue
only). !RT builds are not affected by this change.

> > The series introduces the infrastructure and converts large parts of
> > networking which is largest stake holder here. Once this done the
> > per-CPU lock from local_bh_disable() on PREEMPT_RT can be lifted.
> 
> AFAICS there are a bunch of local_bh_* call-sites under 'net' matching
> the above description and not addressed here. Is this series supposed
> to cover 'net' fully?

The net subsystem has not been fully audited but the major parts have
been. I checked global per-CPU variables but there might be dynamic
ones. Also new ones might have appeared in the meantime. There are
two things which are not fixed yet that I am aware of:
- tw_timer timer
  https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240415113436.3261042-1-vschneid@redhat.com/T/#u

- can gw
  https://lore.kernel.org/linux-can/20231031112349.y0aLoBrz@linutronix.de/
  https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231221123703.8170-1-socketcan@hartkopp.net/T/#u

That means those two need to be fixed first before that local_local()
can disappear from local_bh_disable()/ enable. Also the whole tree
should be checked.

> Could you please include the diffstat for the whole series? I
> think/hope it will help catching the full picture more easily.

total over the series:

| include/linux/filter.h              | 134 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
| include/linux/local_lock.h          |  21 +++++++++++++++++++++
| include/linux/local_lock_internal.h |  31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| include/linux/lockdep.h             |   3 +++
| include/linux/netdevice.h           |  12 ++++++++++++
| include/linux/sched.h               |   9 ++++++++-
| include/net/seg6_local.h            |   1 +
| include/net/sock.h                  |   5 +++++
| kernel/bpf/cpumap.c                 |  27 +++++++++++----------------
| kernel/bpf/devmap.c                 |  16 ++++++++--------
| kernel/fork.c                       |   3 +++
| kernel/locking/spinlock.c           |   8 ++++++++
| net/bpf/test_run.c                  |  11 ++++++++++-
| net/bridge/br_netfilter_hooks.c     |   7 ++++++-
| net/core/dev.c                      |  39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
| net/core/dev.h                      |  20 ++++++++++++++++++++
| net/core/filter.c                   | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------------------------
| net/core/lwt_bpf.c                  |   9 +++++----
| net/core/skbuff.c                   |  25 ++++++++++++++++---------
| net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c                 |  15 +++++++++++----
| net/ipv4/tcp_sigpool.c              |  17 +++++++++++++----
| net/ipv6/seg6_local.c               |  22 ++++++++++++++--------
| net/xdp/xsk.c                       |  19 +++++++++++--------
| 23 files changed, 445 insertions(+), 116 deletions(-)

> Note that some callers use local_bh_disable(), no additional lock, and
> there is no specific struct to protect, but enforce explicit
> serialization vs bh to a bunch of operation, e.g.  the
> local_bh_disable() in inet_twsk_purge().
> 
> I guess such call site should be handled, too?

Yes but I didn't find much. inet_twsk_purge() is the first item from my
list. On RT spin_lock() vs spin_lock_bh() usage does not deadlock and
could be mixed.

The only resources that can be protected by disabling BH are per-CPU
resources. Either explicit defined (such as napi_alloc_cache) or
implicit by other means of per-CPU usage such as a CPU-bound timer,
worker, …. Protecting global variables by disabling BH is broken on SMP
(see the CAN gw example) so I am not too worried about those.
Unless you are aware of a category I did not think of.

> Thanks!
> 
> Paolo

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-06  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 18:25 [PATCH v2 net-next 00/15] locking: Introduce nested-BH locking Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] locking/local_lock: Introduce guard definition for local_lock Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] locking/local_lock: Add local nested BH locking infrastructure Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] net: Use __napi_alloc_frag_align() instead of open coding it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] net: Use nested-BH locking for napi_alloc_cache Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] net/tcp_sigpool: Use nested-BH locking for sigpool_scratch Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] net/ipv4: Use nested-BH locking for ipv4_tcp_sk Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] netfilter: br_netfilter: Use nested-BH locking for brnf_frag_data_storage Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] net: softnet_data: Make xmit.recursion per task Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] dev: Remove PREEMPT_RT ifdefs from backlog_lock.*() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] dev: Use nested-BH locking for softnet_data.process_queue Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] lwt: Don't disable migration prio invoking BPF Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] seg6: Use nested-BH locking for seg6_bpf_srh_states Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] net: Use nested-BH locking for bpf_scratchpad Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] net: Reference bpf_redirect_info via task_struct on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-06 19:41   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-05-06 23:09     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-05-07 12:36       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-07 13:27         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-05-10 16:21           ` [PATCH net-next 14/15 v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-10 16:22             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-14  5:07               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-05-14  5:43                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-14 12:20                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-05-17 16:15                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-22  7:09                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-05-24  7:54                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-24 13:59                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-14 11:54             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-05-15 13:43               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-21  1:52                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-05-07 10:57     ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-07 13:50       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-05-03 18:25 ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] net: Move per-CPU flush-lists to bpf_net_context " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-05-06  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 00/15] locking: Introduce nested-BH locking Paolo Abeni
2024-05-06  9:38   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2024-05-06 14:12     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-05-06 14:43       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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