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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 07:04:51 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 21:01:58 -0600 David Ahern wrote:
> On 6/3/24 12:42 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > Somewhat related, I saw nVidia sells various interesting features in its
> > DOCA stack. Is that Open Source?  
> 
> Seriously, Jakub, how is that in any way related to this patch set?

Whether they admit it or not, DOCA is a major reason nVidia wants
this to be standalone rather than part of RDMA.

> You are basically suggesting that if any vendor ever has an out of tree
> option for its hardware every patch it sends should be considered a ruse
> to enable or simplify proprietary options.

Ooo, is that a sore spot?

I don't begrudge anyone building proprietary options, but leave
upstream out of it.