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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Furong Xu <0x1207@gmail.com>
Cc: Jianheng Zhang <Jianheng.Zhang@synopsys.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Joao Pinto <jpinto@synopsys.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfr@outlook.com, rock.xu@nio.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/7] net: stmmac: xgmac: drop incomplete FPE implementation
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:10:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240709171018.7tifdirqjhq6cohy@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b313d570-e3f3-479f-a469-ba2759313ea4@lunn.ch>

Hi Andrew, Furong,

On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 03:16:35PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 04:21:19PM +0800, Furong Xu wrote:
> > The FPE support for xgmac is incomplete, drop it temporarily.
> > Once FPE implementation is refactored, xgmac support will be added.
> 
> This is a pretty unusual thing to do. What does the current
> implementation do? Is there enough for it to actually work? If i was
> doing a git bisect and landed on this patch, could i find my
> networking is broken?
> 
> More normal is to build a new implementation by the side, and then
> swap to it.
> 
> 	Andrew
> 

There were 2 earlier attempts from Jianheng Zhang @ Synopsys to add FPE
support to new hardware.

I told him that the #1 priority should be to move the stmmac driver over
to the new standard API which uses ethtool + tc.
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CY5PR12MB63726FED738099761A9B81E7BF8FA@CY5PR12MB6372.namprd12.prod.outlook.com/
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CY5PR12MB63727C24923AE855CFF0D425BF8EA@CY5PR12MB6372.namprd12.prod.outlook.com/

I'm not sure what happened in the meantime. Jianheng must have faced
some issue, because he never came back.

I did comment this at the time:

| Even this very patch is slightly strange - it is not brand new hardware
| support, but it fills in some more FPE ops in dwxlgmac2_ops - when
| dwxgmac3_fpe_configure() was already there. So this suggests the
| existing support was incomplete. How complete is it now? No way to tell.
| There is a selftest to tell, but we can't run it because the driver
| doesn't integrate with those kernel APIs.

So it is relatively known that the support is incomplete. But I still
think we should push for more reviewer insight into this driver by
having access to a selftest to get a clearer picture of how it behaves.
For that, we need the compliance to the common API.

Otherwise, I completely agree to the idea that any development should be
done incrementally on top of whatever already exists, instead of putting
a curtain on and then taking it back off.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-09 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-09  8:21 [PATCH net-next v1 0/7] net: stmmac: refactor FPE for gmac4 and xgmac Furong Xu
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/7] net: stmmac: xgmac: drop incomplete FPE implementation Furong Xu
2024-07-09 13:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-09 17:10     ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2024-07-10  7:57       ` Furong Xu
2024-07-10 13:31       ` Issue with SJA1105QELY on STM32MP151CAA3T over RGMII Interface Oleksij Rempel
2024-07-10 13:50         ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/7] net: stmmac: gmac4: drop FPE implementation for refactoring Furong Xu
2024-07-09 13:24   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/7] net: stmmac: refactor Frame Preemption(FPE) implementation Furong Xu
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/7] net: stmmac: gmac4: complete FPE support Furong Xu
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 5/7] net: stmmac: xgmac: rename XGMAC_RQ to XGMAC_FPRQ Furong Xu
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 6/7] net: stmmac: xgmac: complete FPE support Furong Xu
2024-07-09  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v1 7/7] net: stmmac: xgmac: enable Frame Preemption Interrupt by default Furong Xu
2024-07-09 13:31   ` Andrew Lunn

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