From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6933414EC41; Tue, 9 Jul 2024 12:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1720528400; cv=none; b=RtYACBQiE4hcD2pWZbhoBvtWW9GxvK4IthUfvMlqWylfV9d5+XU8x4sQMYDx1L2PStpRYjzgJmvomNb02jGxHuGfJe5Jx+jPaRUKscToyoDL0//JKdedT88uqw9wBSySO/E1QwNk2t2tfOj++aPjkC7oON+cgYQWLUq+XLGr26Y= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1720528400; c=relaxed/simple; bh=MPZMscC3wZUlcb/1vJzFlGz4ugVMJAHuXwVzs78cA8I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=SNUMc+CHs4oylOB7xFY+87JEfPlgOwyzeOplMTeL2LsacTQVDMmq++Md2ZxHhTYNhMEYgEiogHPwLS7/QK5+/umxExKEpBXXPUvn2A51xJ5JBqgTREFfSvjqPCMUNFyBrvPRQt19+PkDTeVk/CjozVbGmlQIs06xlR4sXxFLk9E= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=btCB88XE; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="btCB88XE" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C2BAC4AF0C; Tue, 9 Jul 2024 12:33:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1720528399; bh=MPZMscC3wZUlcb/1vJzFlGz4ugVMJAHuXwVzs78cA8I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=btCB88XEKyHVwFUk6kcXxnIG3vzKi6LL11ybZDx2MMssGswSZ6DXWDgLqP6/bGdfQ PGEbHxhjpvvAXUvxKf7JnypmgeLGCnFAQs1ACMb7kL37e8iMAc6OJE89QqdL1xorVk sQ2MNgUkCvnFMW4/5PBfLPVLxpv78iXOZ16nPudE= Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 14:33:17 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Leon Romanovsky Cc: Dan Williams , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgg@nvidia.com Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful? Message-ID: <2024070933-commerce-duress-935a@gregkh> References: <668c67a324609_ed99294c0@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> <2024070910-rumbling-unrigged-97ba@gregkh> <20240709122547.GC6668@unreal> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240709122547.GC6668@unreal> On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 03:25:47PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:01:06PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 03:26:43PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > <...> > > > > It sets common expectations for > > > device designers, distribution maintainers, and kernel developers. It is > > > complimentary to the Linux-command path for operations that need deeper > > > kernel coordination. > > > > Yes, it's a good start, BUT by circumventing the network control plane, > > the network driver maintainers rightfully are worried about this as > > their review comments seem to be ignored here. The rest of us > > maintainers can't ignore that objection, sorry. > > Can you please point to the TECHNICAL review comments that were > presented and later ignored? I can't remember review comments that were made yesterday, let alone months ago, sorry. greg k-h