From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful?
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:05:14 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240710130514.GQ107163@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <668d92f68916f_102cc2947b@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:43:50PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> A "Command Effects Log" seems like that starting point, with trust that
> cynical abuses of that contract have a higher cost than benefit, and
> trust that the protocol limits the potential damage of such abuse.
I've taken the view that companies are now very vigilant about
security and often have their own internal incentives and procedures
to do secure things.
If someone does a cynical security breaking thing and deploys it to a
wide user base they are likely to be caught by a security researcher
and embarassed with a CVE and a web site with a snappy name.
Not 100% of course, but it is certainly not a wild west of people just
doing whatever they want.
The other half of this bargin is we have to be much clearer about what
the security model is and what is security breaking. Like Christoph I
often have conversations with people who don't understand the basics
of how the Linux security models should work and are doing device-side
work that has to fit into it.
Jason
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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-08 22:26 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful? Dan Williams
2024-07-09 6:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:43 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-07-21 18:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 10:01 ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:25 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-09 12:33 ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:47 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-11 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 20:09 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-09 16:02 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-09 22:15 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 11:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 17:01 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 17:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 16:36 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-12 10:37 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-21 19:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 7:31 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 8:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 10:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 11:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:28 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 14:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 14:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-22 10:42 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-22 11:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 11:56 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 20:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 8:04 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 10:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:58 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-31 11:54 ` Sakari Ailus
2024-07-31 13:15 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-02 15:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:17 ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:33 ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-11 13:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 15:16 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-11 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-23 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-23 11:36 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-23 23:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-24 20:12 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 20:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-24 20:37 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 21:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-25 19:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-25 20:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 23:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 8:04 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 12:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 14:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:43 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 15:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:57 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 8:03 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:44 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:02 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:49 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-28 16:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 17:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-07-29 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-25 9:26 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 10:51 ` Wolfram Sang
2024-07-25 12:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:02 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 13:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:29 ` Mark Brown
2024-07-25 14:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 17:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-26 13:58 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 19:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 8:02 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:11 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 11:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29 9:56 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:01 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-26 17:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-26 14:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-28 16:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-27 0:16 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-28 11:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:16 ` Greg KH
2024-07-28 15:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:49 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-29 6:10 ` Greg KH
2024-07-31 12:33 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-31 12:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-01 14:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-07 0:06 ` Dan Williams
2024-08-07 0:13 ` James Bottomley
2024-08-16 11:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-07-29 14:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-07-29 15:16 ` Greg KH
2024-07-29 15:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 12:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 13:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-07-29 14:29 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 14:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 13:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-01 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 15:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 22:37 ` Dan Williams
2024-07-30 7:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-01 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 7:14 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-06 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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