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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Wei Huang <wei.huang2@amd.com>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
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	manoj.panicker2@amd.com, Eric.VanTassell@amd.com,
	vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev, horms@kernel.org,
	bagasdotme@gmail.com, bhelgaas@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 03/10] PCI/TPH: Add pci=notph to prevent use of TPH
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:29:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240725212915.GA860294@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28b953c3-ef66-4bd2-a024-ec860399ffbf@amd.com>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 03:05:59PM -0500, Wei Huang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/23/24 17:41, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 03:55:04PM -0500, Wei Huang wrote:
> >> TLP headers with incorrect steering tags (e.g. caused by buggy driver)
> >> can potentially cause issues when the system hardware consumes the tags.
> > 
> > Hmm.  What kind of issues?  Crash?  Data corruption?  Poor
> > performance?
> 
> Not crash or functionality errors. Usually it is QoS related because of
> resource competition. AMD has

Looks like you had more to say here?

I *assume* that both the PH hint and the Steering Tags are only
*hints* and there's no excuse for hardware to corrupt anything (e.g.,
by omitting cache maintenance) even if the hint turns out to be wrong.
If that's the case, I assume "can potentially cause issues" really
just means "might lead to lower performance".  That's what I want to
clarify and confirm.

> >> Provide a kernel option, with related helper functions, to completely
> >> prevent TPH from being enabled.
> > 
> > Also would be nice to have a hint about the difference between "notph"
> > and "nostmode".  Maybe that goes in the "nostmode" patch?  I'm not
> > super clear on all the differences here.
> 
> I can combine them. Here is the combination and it meaning based on TPH
> Control Register values:
> 
> Requestor Enable | ST Mode | Meaning
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 00               | xx      | TPH disabled (i.e. notph)
> 01               | 00      | TPH enabled, NO ST Mode (i.e. nostmode)
> 01 or 11         | 01      | Interrupt Vector mode
> 01 or 11         | 10      | Device specific mode
> 
> If you have any other thoughts on how to approach these modes, please
> let me know.

IIRC, there's no interface in this series that reall does anything
with TPH per se; drivers would only use the ST-related things.

If that's the case, maybe "pci=notph" isn't needed yet.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-25 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-17 20:55 [PATCH V3 00/10] PCIe TPH and cache direct injection support Wei Huang
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 01/10] PCI: Introduce PCIe TPH support framework Wei Huang
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 02/10] PCI: Add TPH related register definition Wei Huang
2024-07-23 22:33   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 03/10] PCI/TPH: Add pci=notph to prevent use of TPH Wei Huang
2024-07-23 22:41   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-24 20:05     ` Wei Huang
2024-07-25 21:29       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-07-29 14:56         ` Wei Huang
2024-07-24 14:45   ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2024-07-24 15:36     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-24 20:08       ` Wei Huang
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 04/10] PCI/TPH: Add pci=nostmode to force No ST Mode Wei Huang
2024-07-23 22:44   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-02  4:29     ` Wei Huang
2024-08-02 17:05       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 05/10] PCI/TPH: Introduce API to check interrupt vector mode support Wei Huang
2024-07-23 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 06/10] PCI/TPH: Introduce API to retrieve TPH steering tags from ACPI Wei Huang
2024-07-23 22:22   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-02  4:58     ` Wei Huang
2024-08-02 16:58       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 07/10] PCI/TPH: Introduce API to update TPH steering tags in PCIe devices Wei Huang
2024-07-23 23:15   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 08/10] PCI/TPH: Add TPH documentation Wei Huang
2024-07-23 21:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 09/10] bnxt_en: Add TPH support in BNXT driver Wei Huang
2024-07-23 16:48   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-02  5:44     ` Wei Huang
2024-08-02 17:00       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-17 20:55 ` [PATCH V3 10/10] bnxt_en: Pass NQ ID to the FW when allocating RX/RX AGG rings Wei Huang
2024-07-20  8:08 ` [PATCH V3 00/10] PCIe TPH and cache direct injection support Lukas Wunner
2024-07-22 14:44   ` Wei Huang
2024-07-22 14:58     ` Lukas Wunner
2024-07-20 19:25 ` David Wei
2024-07-22 15:38   ` Wei Huang

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