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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:10:55 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240729141055.GB3371438@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZqPd7i22_oyPB2UN@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 07:33:34PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:

> What gets vendors involved is a successful project that drives revenue,
> where they have a clear need for a seat at the table to make sure the good
> times for them continue. Clear rules what it takes to get that seat is in
> my experience really the driving force for private discussions with
> vendors, and from that pov the most important thing I've ever done for the
> open gpu stack is this little documentation section:

Yeah, +1 on this, we can't forget the important role of the end
customer. In my view a successful project drving revenue is one that
has customer pull attached to it. If the market isn't also pushing for
open in the same direction the chances of success drop dramatically.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-29 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-08 22:26 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Device Passthrough Considered Harmful? Dan Williams
2024-07-09  6:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:43   ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-21 18:51       ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 10:01 ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:25   ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-09 12:33     ` Greg KH
2024-07-09 12:47       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-11 14:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09 20:09   ` Dan Williams
2024-07-09 16:02 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-09 22:15   ` Dan Williams
2024-07-10 13:22     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 11:00       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 15:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 17:01         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-11 17:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 16:36       ` Dan Williams
2024-07-12 10:37         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-21 19:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22  7:31       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22  8:53         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 10:44           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 11:10             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 13:28               ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-22 14:13                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 14:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-22 10:42       ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-22 11:18         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-22 11:56           ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 20:01             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26  8:04               ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 10:59                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40                   ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:18                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29  9:58                       ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:31                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-31 11:54                         ` Sakari Ailus
2024-07-31 13:15                           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-02 15:07                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:17                             ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:26                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-13 10:33                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2024-08-13 10:58                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-11 13:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-11 15:16     ` James Bottomley
2024-07-11 16:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-23 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-23 11:36   ` James Bottomley
2024-07-23 23:22     ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-24 20:12       ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 20:00     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-24 20:37       ` James Bottomley
2024-07-24 21:10         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-25 19:31         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 19:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-25 20:07             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 23:39               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26  8:04               ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 12:49                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 13:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 14:22                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:43                       ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 15:25                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29  9:57                           ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 14:20                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26  8:03           ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:22             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:44               ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 17:02                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:49           ` James Bottomley
2024-07-28 16:44             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 17:33         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-07-29 14:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-07-25  9:26       ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 10:51         ` Wolfram Sang
2024-07-25 12:23         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:02           ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-25 13:20             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 13:29               ` Mark Brown
2024-07-25 14:18                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-25 14:22                   ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 17:37                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-26 13:58                       ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 19:42               ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26  8:02                 ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-26 13:11                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:40                     ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-28 11:23                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-29  9:56                         ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2024-07-29 10:38                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 16:01                     ` James Bottomley
2024-07-26 17:56                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-25 13:44             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-26 14:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-26 15:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-28 16:03     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-27  0:16   ` Dan Williams
2024-07-28 11:18     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:16       ` Greg KH
2024-07-28 15:34         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-07-28 15:49         ` James Bottomley
2024-07-29  6:10           ` Greg KH
2024-07-31 12:33             ` James Bottomley
2024-07-31 12:45               ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-08-01 14:41               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-07  0:06                 ` Dan Williams
2024-08-07  0:13                   ` James Bottomley
2024-08-16 11:12                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-07-29 14:56           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-07-29 15:16             ` Greg KH
2024-07-29 15:29             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 12:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 13:38   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-07-29 14:29     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 14:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 13:19         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-08-01 14:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 15:42   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-29 22:37     ` Dan Williams
2024-07-30  7:13       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-01 14:22         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06  7:14           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-06 13:04             ` Jason Gunthorpe

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