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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>,
	Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@oracle.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Jiri Pirko" <jiri@nvidia.com>, Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	<linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] fwctl: FWCTL_INFO to return basic information about the device
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 18:34:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240730183441.00004672@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240729163513.GD3625856@nvidia.com>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:35:13 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 04:15:03PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:47:27 -0300
> > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Userspace will need to know some details about the fwctl interface being
> > > used to locate the correct userspace code to communicate with the
> > > kernel. Provide a simple device_type enum indicating what the kernel
> > > driver is.  
> > 
> > As below - maybe consider a UUID?
> > Would let you decouple allocating those with upstreaming drivers.
> > We'll just get annoying races on the enum otherwise as multiple
> > drivers get upstreamed that use this.  
> 
> I view the coupling as a feature - controlling uABI number assignment
> is one of the subtle motivations the kernel community has typically
> used to encourage upstream participation.

Hmm. I'm not sure it's worth the possible pain if this becomes
popular.  Maybe you'll have to run a reservation hotline.


> 
> > > +/**
> > > + * struct fwctl_info - ioctl(FWCTL_INFO)
> > > + * @size: sizeof(struct fwctl_info)
> > > + * @flags: Must be 0
> > > + * @out_device_type: Returns the type of the device from enum fwctl_device_type  
> > 
> > Maybe a UUID?  Avoid need to synchronize that list for ever.
> >   
> > > + * @device_data_len: On input the length of the out_device_data memory. On
> > > + *	output the size of the kernel's device_data which may be larger or
> > > + *	smaller than the input. Maybe 0 on input.
> > > + * @out_device_data: Pointer to a memory of device_data_len bytes. Kernel will
> > > + *	fill the entire memory, zeroing as required.  
> > 
> > Why do we need device in names of these two?  
> 
> I'm not sure I understand this question?
> 
> out_device_type returns the "name"
> 
> out_device_data returns a struct of data, the layout of the struct is
> defined by out_device_type

What is device in this case?  fwctl struct device, hardware device, something else?

I'm not sure what the names give over
fwctl_type, out_data_len, out_data

The first one can't just be type as likely as not out_data contains a
type field specific to the fwctl_device_type.

I don't feel that strongly about this though, so stick to device
if you like. I'll get used to it.

Jonathan
 
> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-30 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-24 22:47 [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce fwctl subystem Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] fwctl: Add basic structure for a class subsystem with a cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-25  4:47   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-07-22 16:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 14:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 17:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 17:15       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] fwctl: Basic ioctl dispatch for the character device Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 15:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 17:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 17:28       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-01 13:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06  7:36   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-08 12:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] fwctl: FWCTL_INFO to return basic information about the device Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 15:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 16:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30 17:34       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2024-08-01 13:11         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] taint: Add TAINT_FWCTL Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-25 19:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-10 16:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] fwctl: FWCTL_RPC to execute a Remote Procedure Call to device firmware Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 15:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 16:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-30  8:00   ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-08-01 12:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-01 17:26       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-08-02 13:59         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-02 15:57           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-08-07  7:44   ` Oded Gabbay
2024-08-08 11:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] fwctl: Add documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-25 22:04   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-22 16:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-22 20:40       ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-26 15:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 16:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06  8:03   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-08-08 12:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09  9:21       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fwctl/mlx5: Support for communicating with mlx5 fw Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-26 16:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-29 16:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-31 11:52       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-01 13:25         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 22:47 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] mlx5: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_mlx5 Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 23:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce fwctl subystem Jakub Kicinski

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