From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Madhu Chittim <madhu.chittim@intel.com>,
Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Sunil Kovvuri Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/12] netlink: spec: add shaper YAML spec
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 10:42:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240812104221.22bc0cca@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zro9PhW7SmveJ2mv@nanopsycho.orion>
On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 18:50:06 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 05:25:44PM CEST, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
> >I think the confusion is primarily about the parent / child.
> >input and output should be very clear, IMO.
>
> For me, "inputs" and "output" in this context sounds very odd. It should
> be children and parent, isn't it. Confused...
Parent / child is completely confusing. Let's not.
User will classify traffic based on 'leaf' attributes.
Therefore in my mind traffic enters the tree at the "leaves",
and travels towards the root (whether or not that's how HW
evaluates the hierarchy).
This is opposite to how trees as an data structure are normally
traversed. Hence I find the tree analogy to be imperfect.
But yes, root and leaf are definitely better than parent / child.
> >> Also while at it, I think renaming the 'group()' operation as
> >> 'node_set()' could be clearer (or at least less unclear), WDYT?
> >
> >No idea how we arrived at node_set(), and how it can possibly
>
> subtree_set() ?
The operation is grouping inputs and creating a scheduler node.
> >represent a grouping operation.
> >The operations is grouping inputs and creating a scheduler node.
> >
> >> Note: I think it's would be more user-friendly to keep a single
> >> delete/get/dump operation for 'nodes' and leaves.
> >
> >Are you implying that nodes and leaves are different types of objects?
> >Aren't leaves nodes without any inputs?
>
> Agree. Same op would be nice for both.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-12 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-30 20:39 [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] tools: ynl: lift an assumption about spec file name Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] netlink: spec: add shaper YAML spec Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31 21:13 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-01 14:31 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:57 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:15 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-05 14:35 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-05 20:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 13:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 14:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:12 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-05 15:11 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-06 7:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 14:58 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-12 15:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 17:42 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-08-13 5:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 14:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 14:47 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 14:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:31 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 15:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-14 8:56 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-13 17:12 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-14 14:21 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-15 9:07 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-02 11:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 16:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] net-shapers: implement NL get operation Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 13:42 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 15:17 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-14 8:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-16 8:52 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-16 9:16 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19 9:33 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-19 11:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19 16:52 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-22 14:41 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-22 20:30 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 22:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-23 11:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 12:58 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-23 13:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 14:23 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-26 9:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-27 14:37 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 14:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 20:43 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 21:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 21:54 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28 6:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 10:55 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28 13:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 20:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-28 21:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-29 11:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 15:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-02 11:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] net-shapers: implement NL set and delete operations Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:25 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 22:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 15:23 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] net-shapers: implement NL group operation Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] netlink: spec: add shaper introspection support Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 11:21 ` Donald Hunter
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] net: shaper: implement " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] testing: net-drv: add basic shaper test Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31 7:52 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 1:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 14:22 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-05 19:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-06 15:21 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 12:20 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 14:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 14:34 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-11 12:40 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-12 15:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:03 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] virtchnl: support queue rate limit and quanta size configuration Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] ice: Support VF " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] iavf: Add net_shaper_ops support Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] iavf: add support to exchange qos capabilities Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 12:57 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Jiri Pirko
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