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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 08:26:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240813082615.53693b97@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a779dbb-ad3a-47cf-bb8e-1a50732a9694@gmail.com>

On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 16:11:15 +0100 Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 8/13/24 15:39, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 03:31:13 +0100 Pavel Begunkov wrote:  
> >> I'm getting lost, so repeating myself a bit. What I think
> >> would be a good approach is if we get an error back from
> >> the driver if it doesn't support netiov / providers.
> >>
> >> netdev_rx_queue_restart() {
> >> 	...
> >> 	err = dev->queue_mgmt_ops->ndo_queue_mem_alloc();
> >> 	if (err == -EOPNOTSUPP) // the driver doesn't support netiov
> >> 		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >> 	...
> >> }
> >>
> >> That can be done if drivers opt in to support providers,
> >> e.g. via a page pool flag.
> >>
> >> What I think wouldn't be a great option is getting back a
> >> "success" from the driver even though it ignored  
> > 
> > page pool params are not the right place for a supported flag.
> > Sooner or later we'll want to expose this flag to user space.  
> 
> Fair enough, it appeared to me that's what you was suggesting
> 
> "What comes to mind is adding an "I can gobble up net_iovs from this
> pool" flag in page pool params (the struct that comes from the driver),
> and then on the installation path we can check ..."

Yes, we still need one flag in page pool params -- functioning like 
the inverse of PP_IGNORE_PROVIDERS, I'd call it something like
PP_CAP_NET(MEM|IOV). To distinguish the header and data pools.

> We can also move it from pp flags to queue API callbacks, however if we
> want to expose it to the userspace, I'd imagine we need a queue flag set
> by the driver, which then can be queried by netlink or whichever
> interface is appropriate. And it can be used can be used to fail
> netdev_rx_queue_restart() for queues/drivers that don't support mp.
> 
> netdev_rx_queue_restart() {
> 	if (rxq->mp_params && !rxq->netiov_supported)
> 		fail;
> }

Yup!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 21:25 [PATCH net-next v18 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 01/14] netdev: add netdev_rx_queue_restart() Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 02/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 03/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:37   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 04/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 05/14] page_pool: move dmaddr helpers to .c file Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 06/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 20:36     ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09  2:24       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-09 14:10         ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09 15:45           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-10  3:52             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-11  2:21               ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-11 21:51                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 17:57                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 18:55                     ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-12 19:10                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 23:57                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  2:31                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 14:39                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:11                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 15:26                                 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-08-12 18:57                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 19:04                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13  0:15                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  1:56                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13  8:39                           ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13  9:03                             ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13 14:33                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 08/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 09/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 10/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 11/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 12/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 13/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 14/14] netdev: add dmabuf introspection Mina Almasry

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