From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B89681362; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723683214; cv=none; b=tEE+Fqc3nzrxu1avswbfKfq5IDANwznqtNNbH7YUTSjj9OUKe2tB5QzxNEU+RbOFaCmg8ffSpoMrWzSxfQ9z0UA9i90I4dfFeV+ObgtBba1DMdgG7W1mQ1AqmL1RLo+xjWjQpvwvdv7px/7dXpv1TqM85qoriS2b9QlI7oZDWsQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723683214; c=relaxed/simple; bh=fQQ7RAC1Q4Q3MLAxhDAoVqBcLxpuT2PExNe+KLXKew4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SIQyaOPQq9KW4ebozaLY6EkWCdUyqJozc++6XgjlSeHnu8RYDSUpYzpR0BlimhWv2y8URRDRcGMUSmsjaeyI7y4zFmekhfkehKWOJupelBSE/ouzjdr1qIhKDAAb5P2Ykw3uSTJp+S8AIjhnmw3PUXwGVTZm9Gt9uV+marm6DzY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=m7TldrFL; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="m7TldrFL" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFED7C116B1; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:53:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1723683214; bh=fQQ7RAC1Q4Q3MLAxhDAoVqBcLxpuT2PExNe+KLXKew4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=m7TldrFLR1+y2FcB3TPKoYS4zwqCceHmiAQXSLtqyvd/+oToHTYI1gNFRvFVY3LUt fsxGAmhkss/hXOSmK7L0ndVR9MddAUYddxt4qd22yaDvKM4gHWFyZH8xIuogNX2YmM G7DGNAaQVAc+Hc8CJn8s8E3DZT3rb+Aj//CMHRGhrExY2D4QV4TUNdjCktT72NCOFc 8XYw+cIU3+xyDguVaf9Iod8m+E9PSBhICGs+NadlLrCUb+tHn+bCxZ/ElpJBJdsl4A UWE+iHy03wXEdVhOUrVIO4N/VNKkgwuSZCXNFi11HXYjfCuCNmvv7loqIsRx3zFY4f 2QeHjA4hpMMGg== Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 17:53:33 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Alexei Starovoitov Cc: bpf , Network Development , Linus Torvalds , Jonathan Corbet , Stephen Rothwell , Daniel Borkmann , Andrii Nakryiko , Martin KaFai Lau , Paolo Abeni , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet Subject: Re: bpf-next experiment Message-ID: <20240814175333.6bcaa522@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 12:32:00 -0700 Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > Couple years ago folks suggested that bpf-next should be > a separate pull request to increase subsystem visibility. > Back then we rejected the idea since many networking related > changes required bpf core changes. Things are different now. > bpf kfuncs can be added independently by various subsystems, > verifier additions are mainly driven by sched-ext, > so it's time to give it a shot. It's an experiment. > If things don't work out as expected we will go back to > the old model of feeding bpf trees through net/net-next trees. Excellent, fingers crossed :)