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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Madhu Chittim <madhu.chittim@intel.com>,
	Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Sunil Kovvuri Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/12] net-shapers: implement NL get operation
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:41:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240822074112.709f769e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zsco7hs_XWTb3htS@nanopsycho.orion>

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:02:54 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> This is what I understood was a plan from very beginning.  
>>
>> Originally the scope was much more limited than what defined here. Jakub
>> asked to implement an interface capable to unify the network device
>> shaping/rate related callbacks.  
> 
> I'm not saying this is deal breaker for me. I just think that if the api
> is designed to be independent of the object shaper is bound to
> (netdev/devlink_port/etc), it would be much much easier to extend in the
> future. If you do everything netdev-centric from start, I'm sure no
> shaper consolidation will ever happen. And that I thought was one of the
> goals.
> 
> Perhaps Jakub has opinion.

I think you and I are on the same page :) Other than the "reference
object" (netdev / devlink port) the driver facing API should be
identical. Making it possible for the same driver code to handle
translating the parameters into HW config / FW requests, whether
they shape at the device (devlink) or port (netdev) level.

Shaper NL for netdevs is separate from internal representation and
driver API in my mind. My initial ask was to create the internal
representation first, make sure it can express devlink and handful of
exiting netdev APIs, and only once that's merged worry about exposing
it via a new NL.

I'm not opposed to showing devlink shapers in netdev NL (RO as you say)
but talking about it now strikes me as cart before the horse.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-22 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-30 20:39 [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] tools: ynl: lift an assumption about spec file name Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] netlink: spec: add shaper YAML spec Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31 21:13   ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-01 14:31     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:57       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:15       ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-05 14:35         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-05 20:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 13:10   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 14:40     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:12     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:49       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-05 15:11         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-06  7:06           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 14:58             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-12 15:25               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:50                 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 17:42                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  5:38                     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 14:12                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 14:47                         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 14:58                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:31                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 15:43                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-14  8:56                           ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-13 17:12                 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-14 14:21                   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-15  9:07                     ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-02 11:19   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:26   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 16:04   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] net-shapers: implement NL get operation Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 13:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 15:17     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-14  8:37       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-16  8:52         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-16  9:16           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19  9:33             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-19 11:53               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19 16:52                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 12:02                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-22 14:41                     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-08-22 20:30                       ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 22:56                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-23 11:50                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 12:58                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-23 13:36                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 14:23                                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-26  9:31                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-27 14:37                                     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 14:54                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 20:43                                         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 21:03                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 21:54                                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28  6:40                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 10:55                                                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28 13:02                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 20:30                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-28 21:13                                                     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-29 11:45                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 15:09   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-02 11:53   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] net-shapers: implement NL set and delete operations Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:00   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:25     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:39       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-02 16:15         ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 22:01           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 15:23           ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] net-shapers: implement NL group operation Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] netlink: spec: add shaper introspection support Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 11:21   ` Donald Hunter
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] net: shaper: implement " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] testing: net-drv: add basic shaper test Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31  7:52   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01  1:55     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 14:22       ` Simon Horman
2024-08-05 19:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-06 15:21           ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 12:20             ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 14:17               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 14:34                 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-11 12:40                   ` Simon Horman
2024-08-12 15:31                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:03                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] virtchnl: support queue rate limit and quanta size configuration Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] ice: Support VF " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] iavf: Add net_shaper_ops support Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] iavf: add support to exchange qos capabilities Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 12:57 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Jiri Pirko

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